ChatGPT’s new AI store is struggling to keep a lid on all the AI girlfriends::OpenAI: ‘We also don’t allow GPTs dedicated to fostering romantic companionship’

  • Tony Bark@pawb.social
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    10 months ago

    OpenAI is trying soo hard to put the lid on the pandora’s box they opened.

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    Almost as if theres a huge loneliness crisis in the world… nah thats only scifi

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      It’s not like we already have Japan with years ahead living this specific social crisis. Something could be learned.

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        It’s amusing to me that Japan is somewhat of a forecast to economic crises and social obstacles for much of the world. They were grappling with sub-prime lending fiascos before it was generalized to the rest of the world too

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      Nah, lets just call all lonely men “incels” and sweep the problem under the rug, surely that will never be a problem.

      EDIT: Thanks for helping me prove the point, everyone.

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          One is a symptom of the other (both at a societal level and an individual level)

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              See? You are doing it. Be sure to dismiss this response as something coming from an incel, my other half thinks it’s funny.

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                Yes. Fuck incels. They’re pieces of misogynistic shit. I don’t care if you’re an incel or just some lonely guy, get a hobby.

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                  I have plenty. And I’m not lonely. But when I try to defend lonely fellas online, you say things like “get a hobby”.

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                  There is a distinction to be made here though. Strictly speaking, being involuntarily celibate is a shame, and not at all bad.

                  That being said, the term incel has addition context that isn’t strictly it’s definition, and that isn’t good.

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        A lot of people in this very thread are dumb enough to think that saying sometimes isn’t an incel is the same thing as defending incels, and that you must therefore be an incel yourself. It’s really pathetic how people get triggered by a word like incel and just completely lose their ability to understand the simplest of statements.

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        Incels aren’t just lonely. That’s not even their defining characteristic. They are primarily egotistical, misogynistic, assholes that no self respecting woman should suffer. Loneliness is just the symptom of that.

        If letting them have AI girlfriends makes them happier without impacting anyone, then let the AI girlfriends flow!

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        Is your point that incels are whiny bitches? We all knew that already but thanks for the reminder, I guess.

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    To be fair, it cares about you exactly as much as your OnlyFans crush.

    Probably a cheaper obsession.

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    why? why not let people just retreat into fantasy? it’s probably healthier than many common coping mechanisms. i mean, it’s a chatbot, how much can you do with it?

    let people have their temporary salve to get them thru whatever they were going thru such that they were resorting to this. and if it’s not temporary, ok, fine? better to have some outlet than be even more mentally isolated. maybe in 50 years this will be common, who knows.

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      Liability. Imagine an AI girlfriend who slowly earns your affection, then at some point manipulates you into sending bitcoins to a prespecified wallet set up by the model maker. Because models are black boxes, there is no way to verify by direct inspection that an AI hasn’t been trained with an ulterior agenda (the “execute order 66” problem).

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        Yep, I was having a conversation with a guy that informs policy makers on ai, he had given a whole presentation to a school board meeting I went to a few nights ago.

        He said that’s his highest recommendation when it comes to what should be done on the lawmaker side, pass bills that push for opening up those black boxes so we can ensure transparency.

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          Problem is, there isn’t a way to open up the black boxes. It’s the AI explainability problem. Even if you have the model weights, you can’t predict what they will do without running the model, and you can’t definitively verify that the model was trained as the model maker claimed.

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            I see, my knowledge is surface deep so I admit this is new information to me.

            Is there no way to ensure LLMs are safe for like kids to use as a tool for education? Or is it just inherently going to come with some risk of exploitation and we just have to do our best to educate students of that danger?

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        Some guy in the UK was allegedly convinced by his chatbot girlfriend to assassinate Queen Elizabeth. He just got sentenced a few months ago. Of course he’s been determined to be psychotic, but I could imagine people who would qualify as sane getting too deep and reading too much into what an AI is saying.

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      These kinds of things are not temporary. We know that humans can’t control themselves and aren’t rational enough to “just use it a bit”. It’s highly addictive and leads to people to remove themselves from reality.

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            You’re telling me that all nearly 8 billion people on this planet are crucial to society? Forget that we as a society sometimes condem people to solitary confinement or prison for life, every single person is mandatory for society to survive? Without 100% cooperation everyone is doomed to fail?

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          What if the AI starts suggesting illegal things and they become someone’s partner in crime?

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            Good thing people don’t suggest illegal activities and cause major problems for people. It would be really bad if people were criminals. Glad it’s only robots that suggest people become bad.

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      I am pretty sure its just to avoid controversy, look up the recent news about “laion” for an example, gpt4 isn’t just text anymore, it can generate images also.
      Altman talked about we may sometime all have our own personal AI’s tailored to our own needs and sensitivities. But almost everyone has a different idea of if and where there should be a line.

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        If I have an AI tailored for me and my sensitivities then it should have no filter whatever filter it has should be defined and trained by me.

        Someone else artificially trying to adjust my personality through AI to fit whatever arbitrary norms they believe it should have is cancer.

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          I am inclined to agree, i believe that once society is able to fill everyone’s needs and everyone can summon any ai vr experience they want crime will stop to exist, there would be nothing to gain from committing harm. But i fear the simulated role-play in the context of psychological torture, csam could lead to making dangerous people more confident before we get to that post-scarcity. Maybe you say chatgpt inst realistic enough for it now, but i will be soon.

          training an LLM entirely by yourself with self curated text is beyond what is feasible, most ai researched today dont even know whats in all of the data they use. Its more then you can look at even with an extended lifetime and at best you can fine-tune a standard base model.

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      I guess they don’t want to create separate NSFW category that has to be treated in a different way. They probably think it’s just to risky to get involved in that type of business.

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      Main problem I see with this is that when the AI girlfriend company inevitably eventually folds, or dumbs down the product, or makes it start pushing ads instead of loving words, or succumbs to enshittification in any other way (which has already happened with at least a couple of models people were using as AI girlfriends) the users have to deal not only with going back to loneliness, but with the equivalent of the death of a loved one to boot. It’s not unlikely that some will end up hurting themselves or others as a consequence.

      I mean, this is Lemmy, for fuck’s sake. I think we can all here agree that the whole concept is abhorrent, exploitative, and doomed from the start. What we evidently need are self hosted, open source AI companions, backed by a healthy community developing forks and extensions to cater to any and all imaginable (or unimaginable) kinks and / or fetishes, not this cloud based corporate-driven dystopian AI nightmare we seem to be heading to.

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    Eh why not, isn’t something I’d do and I find it a touch sad but I also don’t really give a shit if somebody flirts with their computer.

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        This is just a pr stunt.

        Nobody gaf about others psychological well being, so let em have the new opioid. At least there’s no collateral damage with this

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        It’s not just Simps. Boomers are very vulnerable to this technology, especially the lonely or widows. For some reason, they can be recklessly trusting of internet relationships/technologies. Hence why they keep getting exploited by Romance and Pig Butchering scams and why they can’t get enough Facebook Trump/COVID misinformation.

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        Humans are a cancer on the world if some percentage never leaves the house and therefore procreates we should exploit that mechanic

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    It’s just a big money grab! Everyone is trying to get rich quick. Like with the App Store. Everyone is hoping their bot breaks into the big time and makes them rich.

    This is what is terrible about society. Few are making bits that help people, they make bots that appeal to the base desires. A race to the bottom if you will…will man ever learn???

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      Exactly what I was thinking. The whole AI hype has been cringe so far and this just confirms it. Seems that the ratio between legitimate use cases and fucking around is kinda skewed towards the meme side of things.

      Or it might just signify our population has a HUGE lonelyness problem (for a myriad of reasons).

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        Oh yes it is a symptom of a deep cultural malaise. I was talking to my square-headed girlfriend about this just the other day. She agrees with me and that’s all I need.

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      I don’t think anyone here is against this per se. It’s just that this store was probably intended for other purposes than providing an infinite supply of digital waifus that will actually respond.

      I’m all for degeneracy, everyone has a right to get naughty, just like everyone has a right to friendship, love and happiness. Which is why it is a good thing these exist. I just don’t think they intended for them to be here, and in such large numbers.