• indigomirage@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    Since Twitter has nothing to do with Tesla (beyond the emotionally stunted owner) this is serious line being crossed. I mean - I don’t care about Tesla. But I do care about SpaceX and Starlink as they have serious geopolitical implications.

    Some country’s leader disses Twitter and they don’t get to launch satellites. Or their people don’t get satellite internet.

    This amount of power should not be in the hands of one rich guy with an inferiority complex.

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      11 months ago

      SpaceX and starlink are dead in the water and utterly useless until Musk has them taken away. As long as he’s running those, they’re just shitty companies with lots of empty promises

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        I wouldn’t say they’re quite dead in the water but he definitely has plenty of power to enshitify them.

        He already shut off the Ukraine from starlink when he felt like it.

        Tit for tat Disney and Tesla.

        If he fucks with SpaceX though, NASA can just stop dealing with them. They would go real quick from being profitable to begging for people to use their service.

        If he starts getting a lot of back pressure from the EU and US on what he can launch, I can put a serious dent in his wallet.

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          “when he felt like it” isn’t exactly correct, he specifically didn’t allow them to use starlink to launch attacks on Russia, as it was meant to be used only for defense.

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            11 months ago

            I mean, if you’re being invaded, doesn’t anything you do to fight back count as “defense”?

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            11 months ago

            The problem is, none of us have real knowledge about what happened there. All we have is conjecture and/or propaganda.

            It’s equally reasonably possible that he has ties in Russia.

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            11 months ago

            Not necessarily SpaceX but they needed something.

            The problem with NASA is that the funding waxes and wains with the administrations, as does the demands of the administrations to give them the money.

            If something takes more than 8 years to happen chances are the project never comes to fruition. NASA has really slowed down in development in recent decades.

            Not all the innovation SpaceX is doing is really warranted, though most of it’s kind of cool. But they are investing in research and development in places that NASA simply can’t get to.

            Starlink is just a way for spacex to capitalize on that research and development. They are their own sister company customer.

            That said they can all turn into dog shit in a matter of months if somebody got a stick up their butt

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          Because Republicans gutted NASA for decades. They absolutely loathed that it was a generally beloved program by everyone. And for every dollar of funding saw multiple times that in the value it created. What SpaceX did wasn’t something that NASA had never thought of. They just never had the funding to really pursue it. And especially in the wasteful manner Elon musk has.

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            What did spaceX do, exactly?

            We’ve had re-usable spacecraft rated for human passengers since the Space Shuttle.

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              11 months ago

              Reentry vehicle sure. Launch vehicle, no. The ocean floor is littered with booster stage debris. NASA had experimented with a lot of different methods to reach orbit. And had even looked at things that SpaceX eventually built. But never had the funding to build themselves.

              SpaceX is nothing but the culmination of a Reagan era fascist fever, dream. Ofdismantling good governance. Privatizing everything possible and then price gouging.

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                I just saw SpaceX’s most recent rocket launch and it looked like they detached the boosters.

                I think they exploded afterwards, too.

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                  11 months ago

                  Absolutely. But that’s only because Elon musk doesn’t mind throwing away money. He’s got so much of it. The rockets were supposed to stabilize themselves and land to be reused. He’s blown up more rockets than NASA so far. In much less time.

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        11 months ago

        SpaceX has Musk handlers to keep Musk away from SpaceX.

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          The mars thing is really a small part of what they do, although it gets the press. They are pretty much the only real game in town for satellite launches, and, I think ISS transport (especially since Soyez is Russian and there’s not a lot of good will going on there…). Even Amazon uses them for launches. It’s approaching monopoly status for critical infrastructure (we’re very dependant on satellites as a society now).

          Mars is a labour of love for future ambition, but it’s not the main show.

          Whether the root cause is historically poor NASA funding or not (I think there’s a strong argument for competition and private sector IF it’s properly governed, but it never is…), the fact is that we’ve created a situation where vast amounts of geopolitical control rest with a single person.

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    11 months ago

    10 years ago if someone had told me that in the future the tantrums of a billionaire petulant manchild would decide what features are available in your already paid for car I wouldn’t have believed them.

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      I wouldn’t have not believed it, but I would be bummed to learn that we still haven’t made contact with three-tiddied aliens.

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          The darkest timeline would be we have made contact with three-tiddied aliens but they were only interested in contacting high ranking officials in shadowy, sketchy U.S. government agencies like the CIA and military. That is what a lot of conspiracy minded people would have me believe and honestly if that was true those would be some lame af aliens. Like… all of all the people on earth to establish first contact with, you chose those losers?

          When they said you couldn’t make contact with the rest of humanity you were just like yup seems like these dipshits have the authority to decide that for the rest of humanity?

          Those would be some lame aliens and THAT would be the darkest timeline.

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    Imagine buying a $50k car and they take away features because the CEO is having a temper tantrum and wants everyone else to suffer.

    You’d have to be a fool to give this guy your money.

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      11 months ago

      If only it was just money.

      There are people joining waiting lists to let Musk put microchips in their brains.

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    11 months ago

    “Citing fire hazard, Disney bans Tesla vehicles from their properties, worldwide.” would be a hilarious headline.

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      11 months ago

      That would at least have some data to back it up. This is just a man-child throwing a hissy fit because the free market decided it didn’t want to do business with Twitter.

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        11 months ago

        I mean, Disney is run by adults, so I suspect they’re sitting over there watching Elon punch himself in the balls and laughing about it.

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    11 months ago

    Holy shit. Who wants products with this much control given to someone else?

    I seriously have no respect for anyone who buys apple or teslas.

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      Bro, why you lumping apple in with musk?

      Seriously, apple does a spectacular job at user privacy and security, probably second to none.

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        Because apple forced an album onto user’s phones just because they were paid to do it.

        Seriously, apple does a spectacular job at user privacy and security, probably second to none.

        Is this satire?

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          Let’s be real here, google and every other company sells you out to their advertisers instantly and even double dip and triple dip on your info wherever they can. Apple doesn’t and they take their security seriously. Feds are always crying about how hard it is to break into iphones, telcos are complaining how apple protects it’s users (because telcos have an interest in monetizing those apple users), and the payouts for finding security vulnerabilities for apple products are very high.

          Google and apple are absolutely on different ends of the spectrum of user privacy and security

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            Apple doesn’t and they take their security seriously. Feds are always crying about how hard it is to break into iphones, telcos are complaining how apple protects it’s users (because telcos have an interest in monetizing those apple users), and the payouts for finding security vulnerabilities for apple products are very high.

            This only means that Apple don’t allow anyone else to do it, not that Apple itself does not do it.

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            Yes but when push comes to shove, they prioritise money. See apple serves in china being accessible by the goverment.

            I do agree that it is nice that apple has things that protects buyers from telcos but, I do feel like the no bloatware and no different phones in regions is a image move so apple products are more easuly understandable for the average consumer (so more money).

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    What a pathetic gesture. I’ll show them, I’ll take away features from my cars! No one subs to Disney+ just because they can watch it in their car. All you’re doing is pissing off tesla owners and scaring away potential owners with your little bitch fit. Pathetic.

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      11 months ago

      Gotta love having a subscription for your car to give you a worse service than before because a man child bought a social media site.

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    CEO of public company actively makes product worse because of business dealings at a seperate private company owned by said CEO. Not that Tesla shareholders don’t already have enough reason to be pissed, but good lord.

    And it’s not a “feud” that would imply Disney is being petty instead of making the fucking obvious business decision to pull advertising spend from the dumpster fire of racism and controversy that is Twitter.

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      instead of making the fucking obvious business decision to pull advertising spend from the dumpster fire of racism and controversy that is Twitter.

      Maybe it’s just me, but choosing where you advertise has always seemed like bullshit with no real evidence to back it up.

      Do people really believe that Disney will lose customers if they show ads on xvideos? How do you even explain that to your children, who won’t see the ads there in the first place?

      I can see a small media backlash that revives itself every so often, but that’s all. Frozen 3 gets announced and all of a sudden nobody cares.

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    Bob, you know what you have to do. Remove him from Iron Man, that’s petty, useless and perfect.

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      OMG that’d be hilarious. Also don’t even say a word to anyone, just have an editor trim that 3 second scene from IM2 and replace it on the disney+ streaming service with this new version.

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        STARK: “wow, your intellect is stunning. I look forward to seeing what you’ll be able to accomplish in the next few years”

        CAMERA PANS

        GRETA THUNBERG SMILES

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        11 months ago

        Better yet, deepfake over him with someone he’d hate. Changes nothing, enrages him

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    11 months ago

    As another once said, “Elon Musk is a stupid man’s genius,” and after all of his tantrums, I see it as true.

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    And here I am just now learning that cars have streaming media apps? That seems insane to me in the first place…

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      Pretty sure they can only be used when parked like when you’re charging. Even at a super charger, it’s going to take 20-30 minutes to get back on the road.

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        Ah I didn’t think of the charging times and maybe needing something to do while you waited. Alright, it’s suddenly much more sane.

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      Oh well… if you have kids in the back seats and a long travel it would not seems too insane

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        Is there anyone left out there that hasn’t given their old cell phones to their children? My kids won’t watch tv, they’ll whip out phones when we’re all in the living room.