IDF says tunnel, outfitted with blast-proof door and firing hole, found alongside booby-trapped vehicle loaded with weapons

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    If your enemy is using civilians as human shields you still cannot attack the civilians being used. You find better tactics that limit that tactic. Refusing to do so makes you no better than your enemy. Both should be condemned.

    For another example this is like a shooter hiding behind a hostage and the cops just shooting the hostage. That’s murder.

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      It’s just the trolley problem Moral dilemma in a very real and cruel application.

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        It’s worse than that since in this case there is plenty of time to stop the trolley before it kills anyone.

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          “plenty of time” is pretty generous considering this whole thing started with an attack which killed over a thousand people.

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      So you expect people not to shoot back when their friends are getting shot at? That’s not how people work.

      Hamas has engineered a situation to cause as much suffering to their own people as possible - it’s great propaganda but truly one of the most horrific betrayals in history.

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        This is a military and they are bombing. They should be better then terrorists. Or the world will consider them thus.

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    No one should be surprised by this. It’s been well known for a long time that Hamas uses civilian infrastructure to shield their operations, and civilians themselves as human shields.

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        It’s no longer a hospital but a relevant military target. You cannot blame Israel for the measures taken against this “hospital”.

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          That’s a funny way to say “fuck civilians.”

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            That’s a funny way to say you have more moral clarity than the Red Cross.

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            Hamas was “fucking civilians” for 18 years by building exactly zero shelters and radicalizing whole population

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          It’s no longer a hospital

          Tell that to the premature babies that were in incubators there. Or the patients who are still there because they aren’t well enough to be moved.

          Seriously, those are some extreme mental gymnastics you’re doing. Of course it is still a hospital.

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            The doctors were Hamas! The patients were Hamas! And the premature babies? Also Hamas.

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      No, these are “terror tunnels,” so they are different! If you put the word “terror” in front of something, it completely changes it.

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      Comparing other human beings to rats or cockroaches or other vermin is such a hallmark of genocidal rhetoric.

      It always amazes me how reliably it crops up, in vastly different cultural contexts, Western or otherwise. E.g. we saw it in Rwanda and Myanmar and Germany. Now here.