• Silverseren@kbin.social
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    If Donald Trump wins back the presidency, he plans to quickly detain millions of undocumented immigrants in vast camps in Texas, try to end birthright citizenship, renew a version of his effort to ban Muslims from entering the United States, and deny visas to foreigners whose politics his advisers don’t like, the New York Times reported Saturday.

    sigh And it’s because of this sort of thing that I, unfortunately, have to advocate for voting for Biden, despite everything terrible he’s doing right now.

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      Biden is a lukewarm president on a good day.

      But compared to this bullshit fascist Christian sharia law ramble above he’s almost one of our only hopes.

      I hope his name isn’t on the ballet this next November. But if it’s listed then we’re all in danger. This nonsense is a far right fascists wet dream.

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        Often in politics you gotta vote for the least shittiest option, especially when your democracy has whittled down to the two-party system conundrum.

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          You left off the last part. Vote for the least shitty candidate with any possibility of winning. And encourage better candidates to run and primary in the future.

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      Yeah the majority of the country will sadly/hopefully be in the same boat. But tbh most presidential elections are voting against one candidate versus for one candidate.

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        There’s a wildly large number of Latinos that don’t like people coming here illegally, even if that includes people they know.

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          Despite Dems going to bat for immigrants and Latinos pretty often, they’re really not a reliably liberal voting block. They probably trend more conservative than anything, which is ironic, given how much the GOP generally dislikes Latinos. Which seems like a recurring problem for Democrats. They try to build this Big Tent party and look out for various groups, but yet many of their supposed voting blocs aren’t really reliable when they’re needed.

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        my broader point is that Trump has gained 0 ground with any one who didn’t vote for him in 2020, 2016.

        It might feel good and he might be getting an emotional response from his bae (which is considerable), but he has won zero new voters with his post 2020 campaigning. If we go by the effect of actually votes cast, voting in 2021, 2022, 2023, has been an across the board shellacking for both Trumpism and to a lesser extent Republicanism. It’s unpopular af outside of the circles in which it is super popular. His core is fanatical, but neither a plurality or majority outside of maybe some extreme states, an even then, I doubt it with how gerrymandered everything is.

        So who is he servicing with this messaging and why? It’s clearly just for his extant base. Why? I don’t know. I don’t think he planned to leave office and I think he sees that as his clearest past away from prison. But he won’t win an election on shit like this.

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          my broader point is that Trump has gained 0 ground with any one who didn’t vote for him in 2020, 2016.

          I’m not so sure about that…he’s polling better with black and Hispanic people than ever before, apparently. Good news it that these are early polls and feature a ton of problems that make their reliability low.

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            Yeah polling seems to become less and less reliable in the last 1-4 years. Remember when the red wave was going to wipe out the “dems” and then…totally opposite happened.

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            What methodology is used to get those poll numbers? If they are cold-calling people they will only talk to people who are so old that they still answer unknown numbers.