• Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    Maybe if they didn’t make the Mustang a goddamned SUV it wouldn’t torch itself trying to haul its fat ass around

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      Car manufacturers love the SUV/crossover format for EVs because they find it easier to fit the batteries in with the higher clearance.

      There’s a reason why they’re all going for it, despite middling enthusiasm from buyers.

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      Utterly irrelevant blathering. It weighs roughly the same as any EV you want to name, and is more than TWO THOUSAND POUNDS LIGHTER than the EV Lightning.

      But you know… don’t let facts get in the way of you car guy squealing about how the Mustang name is a precious thing and has never been used in any controversial manner ever.

      runs away laughing in Fox body

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          A gallon of gas contains 33.7 kWh of energy.

          ICE sedans get on average 31.7 miles per gallon, which is 0.94 miles per kWh.

          Most electric SUVs get 3-4 miles per kWh depending on temperature and driving conditions. Electric sedans get 4-5 miles per kWh.

          You may generally dislike SUVs, but those Electric SUVs are still a far cry better than the gas sedans you’re giving a pass.

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              “fauxCD”

              Stealing that. A big pet peeve of mine is the hijacking of the term “OCD” by almost everyone so they can use it incorrectly, and then people with an actual panic disorder aren’t taken seriously.

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                Americans have actually been using metric for a long time. Well, their drug dealers have anyway.

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            Yes but they’re still as butt ugly as the rest of the SUVs they’re making. And they don’t handle well. And they’re fucking huge.

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          I have one of these and it is not an SUV at all. It is a hatchback that is a foot shorter than a Honda accord and only 7” taller.

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              I’m not sure where you’re getting the poor handling or the high CoG from. It has a low CoG because the battery components are installed near the bottom and they make up a large percentage of the car’s weight.

              It also handles quite well, mostly thanks to the low CoG. It feels firmly planted and is very nimble in turns. Sure, it’s not an e46 M3 but it would be crazy to expect that.

              It also sounds to me like you don’t actually even know what an SUV is. I know it seems crazy but there’s no requirement to comment if you’re uninformed on a subject and aren’t capable of adding value to the discussion.

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                Looks like kinda like an suv, at least. Why did they make it so tall? what’s with the SUV-like shape?

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          It’s around the same weight as an electric sedan, but don’t let facts get in the way of being a cunt.

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            2218 kg vs 1777 kg (Tesla 3) is a 25% increase, in addition to losses from higher air resistance from the fat body

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              Yeah, the BASE Model 3. Now compare it to an S Plaid.

              Oh shit, that’s a similar weight because it’s a higher output battery and BATTERIES ARE FUCKING HEAVY.

              Not that this is relevant. If you’d bother to read the person I was responding to he was shitting on the Mustang because it’s so heavy and “tears itself apart” while Ford’s own Lightning truck is significantly heavier and apparently does not have this issue, making the person I’m responding to a fucking idiot.

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    This is hilarious. They obviously didn’t realize their target audience was drivers who don’t know how to handle a muscle car 😂

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      The newer mustangs are not muscle cars. They are suvs pretending to be muscle cars

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        Sure, but the mach e had a 0 to 60 time that matches the mustang GT so comparing this relevant stat, it might as well be. Plus, they need even more power because it’s so heavy

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          And the Ford Focus RS had a 0-60 about the same as a Mustang, but I didn’t hear anyone wanting to pretend it was a muscle car or should be called a “Mustang 4-tech”…

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            What’s your point? The focus RS isn’t electric sooooo it’s not a part of this conversation about ford EVs and their design woes lmao

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              @GenesisJones@lemmy.world wrote

              What’s your point? The focus RS isn’t electric sooooo it’s not a part of this conversation about ford EVs and their design woes lmao

              I was being sarcastic towards Ford whoring out the Mustang name on an SUV with apologists claiming that the performance made it a Mustang. Electric or not probably doesn’t even matter.

              Sorry if I was too subtle.

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    So Ford didn’t know their mustang owners tend to drive a bit recklessly? The analogies here are plentiful. Smith & Wesson knowing their weapons are used in crimes… McDonald’s knowing their food will turn you fat…

    If the gas pedal goes down X-inches, a mustang drive will press the pedal down X-inches +1

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      “Stick shift is better because when you push all three pedals to the floor, the car sounds real fast!”

      - Mustang Drivers, probably

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      Why would they? It’s not a Mustang. It’s a hatchback EV with extra ground clearance to pretend it’s an SUV.

      Over 70% of buyers are first time Ford customers. There isn’t much of any overlap in buyers between an actual Mustang and the Mach E.

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      I was just driving around my city to make some extra cash on uber, and there is too many mach e owners here who spin the tires from stop and around corners, accelerate to 90s on the bridges even the ones that go up vertically and curves, which takes a lot of power and tire grip to do. These men and women are worse than bmw, porsche or sports car owners.

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    I tried to get my wife to pick a Mach E over the Ioniq 5 and failed. The Ioniq 5 has its issues but now I’m getting like we dodged a bullet.

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      FYI, when driving the Ioniq 5 in one-pedal mode, the brake lights don’t come on until the car is almost at a complete stop.

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        That’s not true at all. It was one of the first things we tested out when we got ours in January. You have to let off at a specific rate, essentially it was trying to replicate engine braking since that also does not result in your brake lights come on. A later software update has also made it come on earlier if you’re braking lighter.

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        I haven’t encountered that and they have a recall out for it so you can go get it fixed for free at your service center.

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    11 months ago

    Is that some of that innovation Bill Ford was talking about the other day?