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Israel ordered its state-run electricity company to halt supply to the Gaza Strip on Saturday after the Palestinian militant group Hamas launched a surprise attack on Israel, the energy minister said.
“I have signed an order instructing (Israel) Electric Company to stop the electricity supply to Gaza,” Energy Minister Israel Katz said in a statement.
At least 150 Israelis have been killed in the attacks launched by the Palestinian movement Hamas.
Israel said the Iran-backed group had declared war as its army confirmed fighting with militants in several Israeli towns and military bases near Gaza and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed to retaliate.
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I don’t think this is a “punishment.” It seems rather foolish to expect them to supply electricity to the people actively using the electricity to kill their civillians.
expect them to supply electricity to the people actively using the electricity to kill their civillians.
The second half of your comment refutes the first
what? how so? Are you saying you do expect them to help Hamas kill Israeli civilians? Is “not being allowed to kill Israeli civilians” a form of punishment, to you?
By all accounts the attacks are over, what’s left are reprisals
oh, for how many hours have the attacks been over? How many of the hostages were returned safely?
Israel has said it has fought off a majority of the militants—not that it as fought them all off.
there is no reason to think the attacks are over. There’s no reason to think they won’t come back with more rockets in an hour or two, let alone tomorrow.
there certainly wasn’t any reason to think attacks were over back when Israel made the call to cut power.
I heard Israel declared war. It would be odd to deliver electricity to your enemy. Other campaigns target power plants. Short of expecting Israel to bomb their own plants, I would expect them to simply cut power if they can. Not saying they should, just pointing out it’s a common thing in war.
no water, that’s not a reprisal? medical care compromised by no power, if you’re into reprisals I think you should say it, but until now you’ve been entirely dishonest about it
so are you still standing by your claim that the attacks are over? should I continue to cite attacks as they happen? or are you going to admit that the attacks are ongoing?
Medical care is compromised by the lack of power. The reason Israel cut off power was not to compromise medical care. The reason Israel cut off power was a military strategy to impede production and firing of rockets. I already pointed that out, but you’ve been entirely dishonest about it. You’ll ignore the point again in your next comment, won’t you?
You linked to a live thread, not to a source specific to water. I managed to find one bullet point on that page about a siege that covers water. I don’t think siege warfare is generally viewed as a form of reprisal. From what I understand, starvation is generally illegal under most treaties, but requires a “high degree of deprivation.”. From what I understand, Gaza is near water, and has access to food and water both internally, via Egypt, via its sea border, etc., etc. So… meh. We’ll see if it actually plays out as a starvation tactic, versus a tactic to shut down supply to enemy combatants and rocket manufacturing.
“to the people actively using electricity to kill their civilians”
Right. So you’re telling me they have data analysts that can precisely tell which buildings are occupied by hamas and which are occupied by civilians. You know, intel that would be worth a fortune for them considering that’s kinda their enemy and it would be an incredible chance to get rid of them once and for all. Notwithstanding the fact that they’d have to have the ability to individually toggle electricity for every building, which, I have a feeling, does not in fact work that way.
Allow me to clarify.
Their first priority is to stop their citizens from dying.
If they need to cut off electricity to terrorists to do that, they will. If they need to cut off electricity to whole regions of the Gaza strip, or the Gaza strip altogether, to keep their people safe, they will.
More targeted enforcement would be preferred. Sure. But that’s not what I said was happening.
You know, intel that would be worth a fortune for them considering that’s kinda their enemy and it would be an incredible chance to get rid of them once and for all.
Fun fact, Israel is very good at intel. Israel can often find which building are occupied by Hamas.
Fun fact, Hamas enjoys operating from, and firing rockets from, civilian homes, mosques, hospitals, and schools. Here’s a handy list: https://kbin.social/m/Israel/t/368817/A-handy-list-of-sources-describing-where-Hamas-produces-stores
One of Israel’s greatest challenges is finding ways to stop terrorism given this unfortunate reality. They develop technology to try to detect civilian presence in these buildings, and to, in case they miss anybody, warn the civilians and give them time to evacuate.
Not having that data is exactly the point, if they had that sure they could specifically cut power. But they don’t have that, and Hamas is mixing with civilians, so they’re forced to cut power across the board
9/11 all over again. War on Terror. You can’t kill ideas
Those ideas originate mostly from those within reach of the IDF. They know what to do.
This type of collective punishment against civilians is a war crime.
state-run electricity company
I wonder what the energy prices are like in Israel…
That’s not even worth talking about, you should hear about Natanyahu’s ties to their phone and internet services. It is/was overt corruption to say the least.
Unprovoked
The Israeli government is a disgrace. Shameful corrupt regime needs to be jailed for crimes against humanity.
