Time to nationalize Starlink and take it away from Melon. And sanction this fucker heavily, until it hurts.
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In general I agree, but once you start using your private assets to directly influence the outcome of wars, you are now playing in a whole new league.
Terms of service. Elon has rules around Starlink. He wants to protect the use of the satellites. Russia may decide to attack Starlink if it’s being used directly to attack them. THat would allowed under the rules of war. If the satellites are attacked, it could destabilize all the satellites in space.
Not everything is a simple binary answer. Elon has to protect his assets and he has some valid concerns about the war escalating.
Unless something has changed, attacking Crimea using Starlink was off limits. I am not sure if that has changed or not.
That’s not what fascism means.
Fuck Musk, take the direct path around the problem: once and for all declare internet providers as utilities and prevent this kind of discretionary enforcement.
You run an ISP? Then you don’t get to zero-rate or prefer certain traffic. You give what they pay for.
And the orbits your satellites use? Those are fucking limited. They are not a gift, they are not free. They are not yours to control because you were “FIRST!”. Those are a public as this service should be.
Please send him to prison for treason or something.
Musk was soon on the phone with President Joe Biden’s national security adviser, Jake Sullivan
I would line up to spit in musks mouth as quickly as the next man but come on. Treason?
He directly chose to influence the outcome of a war. A war that his government is peripherally involved in.
He is playing in a league he has no business in, “fuck around and find out” hits different when the CIA are probably in on the conference call.
He contacted the presidents national security adviser, for advice.
My distain for musk is greater than you know, but saying he is choosing to influence the outcome of a war and framing it in a way that he did it without his governments knowledge? Come on bro.
“Per CNN, Musk also spoke to top members of the Biden administration after turning the switch off on Starlink in Ukraine”
After. He called them after he hamstrung a Ukranian offensive.
Ah well fuck him then lol
Well, light treason…
“How am I in this war?” Musk allegedly told Isaacson. “Starlink was not meant to be involved in wars. It was so people can watch Netflix and chill and get online for school and do good peaceful things, not drone strikes.”
I might buy this naive, peaceful act IF he hadn’t given Ukraine the hardware after the war had already started, and he hadn’t become personally involved in the war.
He didn’t intervene because he was trying to protect us from the consequences. He did it because of his enormous ego.
Does anyone know if/how the Starlink system is currently used in Ukraine?
The Drive Warzone article A Sobering Analysis Of Ukraine’s Counteroffensive From The Front
👉There is evidence of tactical cyber operations supporting closing of kinetic kill-chains. That is cyber ISR contributing to identifying and tracking targets on the battlefield. Starlink remains absolutely key for Ukrainian command and control.
Defence One Article Using Starlink Paints a Target on Ukrainian Troops
👉The soldier, an ex-French Foreign Legionnaire who now operates as part of a reconnaissance-and-sabotage unit, is just one of Ukraine’s many soldiers for whom the Starlink service is a double-edged sword. Like other soldiers interviewed for this article, Boris asked to be referred by his call sign for security reasons.
On the one hand, Ukrainian soldiers say the device is key to their operations, notably its ability to help coordinate devastating artillery strikes. On the other, they report a variety of ways in which the Russians can locate, jam, and degrade the devices, which were never intended for battlefield use.
How the fuq did he know about the proposed attack, unless he has the ability to see any, and all communication relayed through his cloud of satellites. Or alternately he’s a Russian operative, should be stripped of all his wealth, thrown in jail and left to rot. As far as our species go, he is a pretty crappy example of humanity.
How the fuq did he know about the proposed attack, unless he has the ability to see any, and all communication relayed through his cloud of satellites.
The data would all be encrypted, but Starlink can see
a) who is using the data (i.e. it’s the UA military),
b) where the data is being used (each starlink satellite covers a relatively small area to begin with, then you also have triangulation),
c) patterns of data traffic (bit trickier to figure out, but I imagine drone-control traffic will look different to web browsing or watching YouTube), and
d) the schedule of starlink satellite availability for that area (presumably any attack relying on starlink will be timed so that there is a good number of starlink satellites overhead for the duration of the attack, to ensure reliable connection)
Even just with (a) and (b), if you see a bunch of UA military-owned connections heading out into the Black Sea, it’s pretty obvious that there’s an attack in progress.
This guy absolutely wins the cunt of the year award.
Probably a good idea not to trust anything at face value from this bloke, he’s the dodgy discount IRL version of Tony Stark
Tony Stark? Don’t give him the pleasure lol.
Half the time Musk’s statements make less sense than those made by Dr Evil.
Okay, now I’m hoping all SpaceX launches explode on the launch pad.
Really tired about hearing about him. Can we all just choose to ignore him. I think he just likes the attention
Kinda hard to ignore a person who is a private citizen that has the power to change outcomes in a war that has the possibility of nuclear war. Would you rather we just ignore all the crazies and let them run amuck until they kill us all
Ignoring the bullshit he spouts is one thing (Hyperloop comes to mind), but ignoring the things he actually does is a whole different story.
