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      John oliver did a segment about blackmailing a few republican senators. His show is deeply anti-corruption and the writers are as terminally online as I am.

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      Yes, he has quite some good videos that critic the current system but he is by no means on the revolutionary left

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        John Oliver is doing a hell of a lot more to help than internet self-styled “revolutionary leftists” are.

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          I don’t disagree on that. He has quite an audience and therefore influence and budget to do stuff and he does great stuff. Many Social Democrats can learn from him. I don’t criticize him but at the end of the day he’s a Left Liberal which is my favorite kind of liberal. But he won’t fundamentally change the system.

          I have a different perspective on him since I live in Europe. Many things he wants are no brainers for me (like universal healthcare, how is that not normal in a rich country). Still I live in a liberal, capitalist democracy just like the US, just degrees better.

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        He doesn’t seem like a total shitlib, unlike the other three. He seems like the perfect guy to make libs think a bit farther than they otherwise would, and I can’t exactly fault him for that.

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          No, none of these are. Yes, it’s satire. It’s just that John Oliver is the one person in the image I have something positive to say about

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      IIRC he said Universal health care is like the only option. I could be wrong but from what I remember

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      I wouldn’t say “no reason”.

      I’m not gonna do a whole Vaush teardown here, but it’s amazing how he always seems to align himself against a lot of the other leftist YouTubers I have watched and respected for years.

      His obsessive need to tout his “rightness” on all matters is extremely abrasive and off-putting. He likes to cite diversity of tactics as a reason for engaging in debate the way he does, but then also doesn’t respect anyone that can’t debate their position. I’ve read a lot of philosophy and political commentary over the years, I know what I believe, but if you put me up against him I’d crumble on the spot. I couldn’t debate to save my life, it’s a particular skill. Watching him angrily yell at other leftists is not furthering the points he thinks it is.

      Being able to win a debate doesn’t make you right, and losing one doesn’t make you wrong. He’s just another pig in the mud.

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        Great breakdown on why even if Vaush wasn’t a piece of shit (he is) his debate format is inherently problematic. Ben Shapiro can win debates, I used to copy his style when I was in debate class. Not completely, but definitely used the speaking at a weirdly fast pace to make it hard to follow