Microsoft really needs an antitrust smackdown with their repeated behavior.
That didn’t work in the 90s.
Or in:
- 2000
- 2002
- 2003
- 2005
- 2008
- 2011
- (2022)
Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_litigation
Kuduos to you doing your HW. :)
Yes
In retrospect, DoJ didn’t go far enough back then and ignored Microsoft’s anti-competitive behavior with BeOS.
Part of it was Reagan massively weakened antitrust law after Ma Bell was broken up.
This is why we can’t have good things.
Ma Bell, the ill communication
Which sucked because BeOS was really good for its time.
For anyone curious about BeOS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzosnPSETzk
Also there’s apparently an open source version of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-zgv0CZfco
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Looking at the lobbying with the MS-Activision mess, and how broken the government here is. I’m sure they would of gave in.
Yes they do!
If you need more ammunition they recently also changed it so all links in Outlook opens in Edge even if it’s not the default browser. You have to go to settings and find an entirely separate default browser setting to stop it.
I switched to Thunderbird because of that bullshit. It’s getting worse. I’ll be looking for a good Linux distro for my next laptop.
I didn’t think that sort of thing happened anymore
So does Google though if we’re being honest.
Microsoft saying “stop using Google” is actually totally fine with me.
But only if they’re saying “go get Firefox.”
Shouldn’t Apple be the focus of efforts?
Why not both?
I think in reality the Chrome web browser is a huge threat to Internet freedom and should be a top priority.
It’s because of shit like this that I’m glad I switched to Linux.
I wish I could. My gaming rig has an nvidia gpu and linux support really sucks because of the proprietary driver situation…
Steams new gamepad ui is a slideshow running at 5fps and I loose HDR so I have to remain on Windows for now. Every other desktop I own is UNIX tho.linux support really sucks because of the proprietary driver situation.
Stop listening to everyone online. The driver situation “sucks” because of ideologies (which I happen to agree with), but from a functionality perspective Nvidia’s Linux drivers are solid.
The same driver you install is the same driver they use in their half a million dollar DGX AI systems. And those systems don’t run Windows. Only Linux.
Those drivers are stable, but older. I get errors playing new games because my drivers are always 5-10 versions older than their windows equivalents.
That could be a consequence of the distro you’re using. I’m going to guess you’re using Ubuntu and maybe an older LTS.
If that’s the case you can switch to use the Nvidia driver PPA. It’ll give you the latest drivers.
A few others have mentioned Pop_OS! for their Nvidia driver support which is what I’m running too. I think I’m on version 535.93 or something like that. Most of the Ubuntu downstream (Ubuntu, mint, pop_os, etc,.) already include The proprietary drivers in their repos. Pop_OS is known for Nvidia support being a bit quicker than the others.
I’d suggest looking into dual booting (thats what I do, there are a few things that work better on windows). It’s super easy to set up, and it’s an easy low risk way to see if it works for you.
My gaming rig has an Nvidia GPU as well, and it runs mostly without any problems (I’ve had to manually update drivers a couple of times) on POP!_OS
Can you try to run the big picture/ gamepad UI and see if it lag? This my only real issue blocking me from switching back
I have a RTX3070 and I never felt any lag using big picture/gamepad UI in Ubuntu/Manjaro/Endeavour.
But you can Dual Boot and only use Windows for gaming. I did that initially
Manjaro/Endeavour.
Curious about why both?
Started on Manjaro but I was annoyed when they let their SSL certificates expired several times so I moved to EndeavourOS. Now I am using NixOS, and I probably stay with it for a while.
I’m guessing they’re distro hopping. People often jump from Manjaro to Endeavor to get a more clean Arch experience. This is what I did too, on my laptop a couple of years ago, and I’ve stayed on EndeavourOS since.
I got a RTX 3080 myself and no matter what distro I used the new gamepad UI lagged so much that it was unusable… maybe this has been fixed, I haven’t tried it in a while.
Also are you using x or wayland?But you can Dual Boot and only use Windows for gaming. I did that initially
Sadly I wont switch until this is resolved. But I use this rig only for gaming and navigate through gamepadui so I dont have to see Windows lol.
I use UNIX (Linux / macOS) on all other hosts.Use X not Wayland on NVIDIA GPUs. I’m running nixos on my laptop / desktop and big picture works without issues on both hosts.
4800hs + 1650m / 13900kf + 3070
I was using X in all of those. Now I am on NixOS and Wayland, but haven’t tried steam/big picture yet.
I don’t currently own a gamepad, so I can’t help you. I hope somebody else can help.
I use a gaming laptop with an Nvidia GPU and linux support does not ‘really suck.’
The only downside I have is one you wouldn’t experience because you’re not using a laptop.
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My man! (y)
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SteamVR exists on Linux. HDR is coming
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yes, but only with monado’s driver for it. and yes vr on linux works on nvidia too, that’s what I used to run before I got an amd gpu
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Running my Valve Index in Mint Xfce rn.
Just a reminder that if you’re using Windows, it’s not your property but Microsoft’s one
Right but licenses for pro are £200 RRP.
Don’t then beg me to use your services, just fuck off and let me use Windows how I want
Nothing Microsoft does is good. Nothing google does is good.
Choose an alternative that values you.
Linux and Firefox with uBlock Origin.
I’ll settle for one that has a vague indifference to me.
Slackware
The problem is that Linux’s user experience is simply not good enough for normal users.
It’s absolutely correct to blame Microsoft and Google. But Linux also needs to do more to appeal to non-tech people.
That’s probably not going to happen
Which is why we’re still stuck with Windows…
There’s always macOS.
Apple also doesn’t care about you. It’s also overpriced.
What part of the $1299 MacBook Pro and iMac, the $999 MacBook Air, or the $599 Mac Mini is over priced?
You would struggle to find the power of those for lower prices, especially with the quality and support Apple provides. And it’s nearly impossible to find hardware like that with full Linux support.
With the way the average person uses a computer, the Linux user experience would probably melt their brains. No offense to the average computer user, but we have seen time and time again that they are not the brightest when it comes to tech literacy or just don’t care and refuse to care since it goes against the grain, so to speak.
Meh gamepass is cool for now. It will probably go up in price and become shitty when they get enough market share but until then it is super cool. And honestly I think bing/edge is now the better choice as a search engine/browser compared to Google/chrome. But no way I will give up my Firefox.
Edge (and that joke Brave) is chromium and that supports google’s control of the web. Firefox, or Safari on a Mac, don’t use google’s tech.
Firefox is the best for me. I thought chromium was open source though and not necessarily owned by Google.
Google controls it and allows people to use it so their own browser technology has the market share and can shape the web.
Denying google, a for-profit and evil company to shape a valuable public resource is dangerous.
I’ve been using windows for nearly as long as it has existed and I used to always be happy with updates. Even windows vista, despite all its problem, still felt like an upgrade compared to xp.
Then windows 8 started changing things in a direction I was not happy with, but at the same time it also had improvements over win7. Windows 10 repeated that with plenty of bad things but still overshadowed by massive improvements in many areas.
At this point windows was at its peak in some areas, like stability (when was the last time you saw a BSOD without actual faulty hardware?) and usability. Multiple Desktops, WSL2, the new Terminal…so many great things added in win10 updates.
And then comes win11 and shits at everything. Removed a ton of core features that didn’t need removing, broke a lot of compatibility with older stuff (something that Microsoft used to care deeply about) and adds… Nothing. It’s been quite a while since win11 released and there’s still nothing I can point at and say it does better than win10.
If you’re going to do all sorts of stuff with my data you should at least try to make me happy with your product in exchange, not make me dread using it every time.
Thoughtful take! Ditto.
what does “Ditto” mean?
It an expression that means “I agree with what you just said”
ahh, make sense. Thanks
It’s a bastardisation of the Latin idem dito
“say the same”. I assume it means something like “this”?
Yes. “Likewise” and “I agree wholeheartedly” work as well
that’s cool
Ditto (Japanese: メタモン Metamon) is a Normal-type Pokémon introduced in Generation I.
In its natural state, Ditto is a light-purple or pink blob-like Pokémon with vestigial facial features. It is often referred to as amorphous, but has a relatively consistent appearance in official artwork, including two small nubs on its “head”, a few soft lumps at its base, and two pseudopod-like protrusions in place of arms. The face consists of beady eyes and a simple mouth; almost always pulled into a smile.
It is capable of transforming into an exact replica of any physical object or living creature, including its form and abilities. Each Ditto has its own strengths and weaknesses when it comes to transforming; being unable to remain transformed while laughing and getting details of its transformation wrong if based on memory being apparently universal.
brooo LMFAO
Which core functions did they remove and which did they break?
I can’t say that I miss anything from Windows 10 or before that. I disliked the new settings they introduced at first but I think it has seen some improvments (or maybe I am better at navigating it?) but it has really grown on me.
Being backwards compatible can be important (I really appreciated it when I wanted to install a game for Windows 95 on Windows XP) but you have to cut support at some point in order to implement features otherwise not possible, or to just save time and money doing it. It is like trying to develop for the web and you still see people talking about support IE6 (or IE in general).
There needs to be a legally mandated option to turn off all recommendations and tracking, and to require consent to enable it in the first place.
So pretty much just an extension of GDPR. Sounds good.
Sometimes Microsoft is such a turd… I’ve seen this thing posted several times, however I didn’t see the fix in this thread, so I’ll post it here. Sorry, I couldn’t find the Lemmy post that had the information on how to remove it, but I found one on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/computerviruses/comments/149x25h/bgaupsell_what_is_this_bing_popup/jp896s0
It’s basically a combination registry changes, and also directory modifications to prevent writing to the directory where
BGAUpsell.exeresides.It’s pretty shitty we have to do this. Please, hold all your “switch to Linux” comments, because they are stupid, and superfluous; I see that dumb shit all the time since I came to Lemmy.
Penguin sighing noises.
But I like being superfluous…
What if I suggest switching to BSD?
BeOS is best OS ^^
I did try out Haiku a long time ago. I wonder how that’s doing.
Please, hold all your “switch to Linux” comments
Linux is not as great a replacement as every one makes out to be. The community is hella toxic. Frequently leads to them shooting them selves in the foot. Right now they’re trying to pick a fight with Nvidia because they dared to call Linux’s sacred GPL syscalls
The Linux community is full of elitist assholes who think they’re special because they have the ability to install an OS. However, there are also amazing people making amazing tools, completely free of charge. You can’t paint everyone with the same brush.
Honestly, I wish our governments would pump money and resources into open source operating systems so that we’re not all bound to one OS under the complete control of one company.
My understanding of the Nvidia situation is that they are not respecting the kernel’s GPL license, which isn’t right. Nvidia has always done awful, selfish things, which makes sense as they are a market dominant company. It doesn’t mean the Linux developers have to allow them to break the license agreement. Intel and AMD seem to be doing just fine, it’s always Nvidia…
Honestly, I wish our governments would pump money and resources into open source operating systems
They do. The US NSA being of note with SE Linux.
It doesn’t mean the Linux developers have to allow them to break the license agreement
Yes. Completely agree. The problem is, from my reading, is that Nvidia violated GPL by calling GPL functions as opposed to code stealing. The problem with GPL is that it forces everything to be GPL or you’re in violation of the license. Link a GPL library, your code now has to be GPL. Called a GPL function, congratulations, your code has to be GPL. This critical fault in GPL has been brought up time and time again. Thankfully this issue is infrequently enforced. But that just means it becomes a ticking time bomb.
Let me be clear, I’m not defending Nvidia’s actions. Just that in the blame game, GNU’s toxic attitude should be called out
Interesting, I kinda figured that there was some funding by governments but not nearly enough. SE Linux I always assumed was maintained by Redhat, like many other Linux components.
That makes the Nvidia situation a little more interesting. I’d imagine other proprietary software uses GPL’d libraries, like Steam? Doesn’t seem fair if only certain software is being targeted for violating the license. At the same time I’m annoyed how little Nvidia contributes back. It feels like AMD is creating open standards like Freesync while Nvidia won’t let others play with their toys in the sandbox, like G-Sync.
The Linux community is full of elitist assholes who think they’re special because they have the ability to install an OS.
I personally was elitist because of having a different taste which made me wish to use something open, more personal and more customizable. Do not mix us, please.
Honestly, I wish our governments would pump money and resources into open source operating systems so that we’re not all bound to one OS under the complete control of one company.
Corruption likes one or few big private companies to supply stuff. So it’s maybe better that governments don’t finance these things at all.
Intel and AMD seem to be doing just fine, it’s always Nvidia…
Well, on the other side of things - Nvidia has an official proprietary driver for FreeBSD.
Well Windows 11 got me to use arch, for which I use btw
Hahahaha perfect
I tried installing arch but it would tell me there’s no such thing as vda or something I looked it up but found no answer so I switched to pop!_OS
Pretty impressed at just how many notifications, popups and systems MS creates to continually try and funnel you into bing. At some point it moves past being annoying and now I’m just surprised at their tenacity / endurance
That and fucking OneDrive. Autosave isn’t able to function on O365 without OneDrive screw you microsoft
Coworkers have been complaining on Teams all day about how the Bing bar is suddenly showing up on their desktops. When did Microsoft stop giving a fuck about businesses? I wish to fucking god we could run Linux on our work machines.
I am so glad it wasn’t just me! Like the article said, I legit thought I had some sort of malware on my machine. Which I guess is true, they just call it windows. I really only use my machine for gaming and every time I’ve tried to switch to linux I had all sorts of compability issues.
Open question to all. Is SteamOS all that it’s cracked up to be? I’m still gonna have game by game issues right?
The only machine you wanna be using SteamOS on is the Steam Deck. Use a standard Linux distribution like Ubuntu if you’re gonna do it on any other machine. The reason being that the version of SteamOS for generic PCs is horribly outdated, and the one on the Deck is very much built exclusively for the Deck’s hardware.
Gaming mostly works out of the box with almost all games on Steam on Linux (SteamOS is not special in this regard) but there is an important caveat; be careful of games that use anticheat software - some work but others do not or may trigger bans. Check ProtonDB for your specific games to see if there are issues.
I use a steam deck for about 2/3 of my gaming and I rarely have issues with games. That said, I mostly play indie games, but there is so much of my library that is supported that I’m never going to run out of things to play. Proton has really done wonders for gaming on Linux. Are you wanting to play multiplayer games or brand new releases? Or are you more of the patient gamer type?
I wouldn’t run steamos on a full desktop, but you can still get a lot of the benefits just by using steam on Linux. Definitely recommend trying it out.
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SteamOS is mainly for the Steam Deck not regular PC or laptop. For a gaming distro I would recommend one of PopOS, Manjaro or Garuda.
I suggest grabbing the live image for each of them, booting it, and seeing how it feels without committing to anything. I usually test to see if everything works out of the box on the live mode — music, video, network shares, wifi, any peripherals you might have like headphones, fancy mouse or keyboard etc.
Thank you for the suggestions! I mean, the SteamOS was really my only touch point for linux gaming, I haven’t paid attention much to linux since trying wine out like a… decade ago? I’ll give those distros a look and see what feels right! ♥
Basically a good distro + Steam is similar to Windows + Steam, with all the proton stuff and the same (optional) big picture mode as the Steam Deck. It’ll handle setting up most games for you real nicely.
For a DE personally I love Plasma; xfce or Cinnamon would be my next choices. I don’t understand why so many power users like the modern gnome (Ubuntu default)
Random other tangent: I really miss the old Big Picture mode. Few things about the new one are good, but most is worse and a few things are relatively broken still. I know I’m in the minority thinking that though
As a recent penguin I don’t get the gnome thing either. To each their own and whatnot but to me it just reminds me of the weird themes from the early 2000s. I clicked into plasma loved it.
But, you know, it’s Linux. So I can try gnome and tweak it anytime I want to see if it grows on me. Love it.
That’s why they try to sell Windows 10 Enterprise instead of professional. You can block most of that in Enterprise.
Know how to tell which Lemmy users are running Linux? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.
Sometimes I doubt my OS choice … but then suddenly microsoft reminds me why I chose it ;)
I got that popup the other day. I’m this close to switching to Linux
Microsoft IS the malware
This is the epitome of what the Linux community loves to read on the internet. Got any distros in mind?
Kubuntu should be solid. Not to hard to install and yeah.
I did 2 months ago. The OS is truly awsome but many many software are just inferior to the windows version. For example there is no proper pdf reader that can sign a pdf and add or remove a page. You have to do it in two separate software or with a CLI application. I’m a daily anydesk user, I have license as well, their console is broken on ubuntu (or just gnome, not sure). I had to weed out certain things from gnome from a javascript file so I can use my PC while anydesk running. So depending on what you want to do it can be a very good experience or a borderline hell trying to replace your basic software with something worse. I will not give up at this point and I stand by it it is not linux’s fault, however you are not just using an OS but many software on that said OS and many of those software will suck. Fortunately things like Photoshop no longer an issue as you have Photopea in the web browser. Web3 is really helping linux out.
For example there is no proper pdf reader that can sign a pdf and add or remove a page.
Unfortunately, pdf signing is problematic still on Linux, I use it as a daily driver and found a compromise with existing functionality. You can try okular, which is able to sign PDFs without altering them, but has a huge signature block and doesn’t permit adding a scan of a signature. My workaround: I created a stamp in the PDF reviewing tools with my signature, I can place that on the document and then sign it afterwards. Unfortunately, that doesn’t work for pre-signed PDFs as it will alter the signed version.
Alternatively, LibreOffice Draw can sign PDFs, but also can’t insert signature scans (yet, there’s an open feature request) and is sometimes not understanding when PDFs change to landscape, in general it’s not nice to render a many-pages document in LO Draw and hope that it won’t mess up the document upon signing.
For adding / removing pages, I agree - it’s a pity there’s no GUI application, but I have gotten used to qpdf / pdftk and they are quite powerful and more efficient 90% of the time. Still doesn’t excuse no GUI application, but it keeps me able to work.
Xournal++ is old, but it can directly write on PDFs with both pen tablet and scanned image insertion, and can probably add/remove/reorder pages too— Technically I think its file format links to/embeds the whole PDF file, and then probably exports a new one with stuff added on top, or something like that, but the end result is usually that you can directly edit the PDF.
Or do you mean some kind of cryptographic signing? Well, it looks like Adobe offers a webtool too?
You can sign and remove pages using LibreOffice Draw
you can but it has many other issues as it is not a PDF reader. It has no bookmarks, every PDF is opened editable so if there are shapes or text you can accidentally move them, there is no continuous scrolling through a document it is divided into individual pages. PDF is simply not solved on linux at the moment.
Does your PDF Reader and PDF Editor have to be the same application?
No. I rarely edit PDFs. I sign them, bind them, reorganize pages, comment on them. I was an adobe x user then a foxit reader guy on windows, there you can do it all. There is a foxit reader for linux with fraction of the features and have crashed for me constantly (back to my original point that multi OS developments have inferior linux version) Ideally I would prefer a single software to manage my PDFs just like for example I prefer a single software to play my different format of videos.
I use AnyDesk regularly myself and haven’t run into an issue aside from the dark theming of my desktop making some text a bit hard to read.
What’s the issue you’re having?
gnome has those little icon on the top bar and anydesk also creates one while running. That little icon created a big unclickable are in the corner of the screen and i could not close my full screen windows. I had to delete a javascript file from gnome that places those icons in the topbar to solve this issue as anydesk has no setting to hide it.
That’s actually an Ubuntu specific problem then, since vanilla gnome doesn’t come with tray icons
For example there is no proper pdf reader that can sign a pdf and add or remove a page.
Xournal++ should be a proper PDF reader that can sign a PDF and add and remove pages. Haven’t tried doing the latter personally though. It looks a bit old and might be hard to find, but it’s always worked suspiciously fine for me and is still in active development.
The “Adobe Acrobat” brand apparently also has a web app for signing PDFs. This is like, the first web search result for “PDF signing”.
I’ve also tried Inkscape import as vector and then reexport, which works fine for visually signing single pages. Just make sure you render the text to paths on import, instead of converting them to SVG text— And don’t actually do this, because it’s kinda dumb, so just use Xournal++ or the Adobe website instead, but there are options.
Granted, depending on how your experience with Xournal goes, these options are indeed not as convenient or easy as they should be.
Web3 is really helping linux out.
No! This term refers to, like, three three different things already, all of which have largely been either practical failures or grifts. Prescriptivism is usually just pedantry, but HTML5 web apps aren’t even on that inauspicious list.
Ah mate, 2 months in going full endeavour OS, not looked back. Not perfect, but very close to now and all my devices run it, its amazing.
I switched to EndeavourOS a few months ago after using Kubuntu exclusively for almost a decade. I’m never going back to Ubuntu.
Out of interest do you feel that Kubuntu and whatnot feels very much corporation run now - like its coming close to Microsoft version of Linux?
I installed Pop OS on my laptop since it’s pretty gaming friendly. Between that and the Steam Deck, Windows 10 might be my last version of Windows for personal use.
It’s in Windows 10 now too
Peachy. Thanks for the heads up. I haven’t noticed anything intrusive yet.
You’re not going to make me feel bad for Google
A malware company using malware practices. Nothing to see here, gents.
Nothing to see, except its effective monopoly in the OS PC sector and its presence in the entertainment and corporate industry.
