I find this mildly infuriating, I only use Windows for work, I even personally purchased Windows 11. Local account and disabled as much as I could. I personally do not like Windows or Windows in general.
Well, now I do an update and they throw this up like I need to walk thru these steps (again). Not even a “Skip”/“Don’t remind me again”. Windows is not what it used to be and after disabling half the Microsoft stuff I’d expect not to be bothered again. It’s really a built in ad more then anything.
2023-08 Cumulative Update Preview for Windows 11 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KB5029351)
Remind me in 3 days. That shit should be against the law. There should be a don’t bug me ever again option.
Try to uncheck “Suggest ways I can finish setting up my device to get the most out of Windows”/“Show me the Windows welcome experience after updates and occasionally when I sign in to highlight what’s new and suggested” in Settings -> System -> Notification & actions (Windows 10) or “Offer suggestions on how I can set up my device” in Settings -> System -> Notifications (Windows 11)
Linux user here. But, that will be helpful for many I’m sure. Nice
which distro?
Weird coincidence but this is also how you opt out of a time share condo!
Actual lol from me!
big if true
It’s a dark pattern microaggression.
That’s actually a good thing IMO, Microsoft is giving people more reasons to switch to Linux. How kind of them!
The new Debian is fucking awesome.
Debian have been fucking awesome since i installed it 23 years ago! It was leaps and bounds better then it’s contemporaries.
I agree, although I used to use it for a dev server and SSH in. It’s a great piece of kit!
what’s cool about it?
Good point, adds to the mountain. I may just see if I could run a windows VM at this point tbh.
I switched to Pop!_OS recently and Windows runs faster in a VM
(because you’ve only installed the 1 app you need to run not your entire life, and then snapshot it after debloating so it’s always the same)
Yeah, I think I am going to setup a VM. I only need it for work due to Windows apps that would work just fine in a VM.
I am actually considering Qubes OS, which might take some work but overall would probably be a good seamless process.
How do you like Pop!_OS? I was looking at System76 computers one day and looked into it a couple years ago. Never gave it a try though, based off Ubuntu right?
Ubuntu/Debian base yeah.
It just worked out of the box for me and runs everything that kept me locked to windows so I’ve stuck with it.
I’ve run Handbrake in a VM because the linux version doesn’t allow setting the default folder for some reason but otherwise haven’t needed Windows in months. and as long as I don’t need to do anymore bulk trascoding I’ve probably seen the last of it.
If you don’t play games like valorant, and only need windows for specific tasks then going with a windkws VM is a good option.
We’re getting there! There’s still games that run much better on Windows, and some games still don’t have Linux support. But the numbers are shrinking like crazy (THANK YOU STEAMDECK, Steam is the best company for game health as a whole.)
Also with VR… well, I don’t actually know. I haven’t tried, but will my index be fully functional (and run as well) on Linux?
Windows is nagware now. Microsoft dared to imagine an entire OS on the Winrar model.
Its actually worse than that. I PAID for Windows. If I paid for WinRAR they would stop.
Well WinRAR only nags you when you use it, unlike windows that is always running and almost always nagging.
If you stop using Windows, it also stops nagging you.
I have but for this PC, and only due to game pass not working nice on Linux (I like to play games with old friends far away)
I understand. If you don’t already know it, you can look up here if your games would work on Linux: https://www.protondb.com/
I wish they went with the winrar model. Winrar just nags you once when starting. Windows keeps trying to trick you into giving them your data and signing up for a subscription.
Don’t you compare windows to that time honoured and helpful software. WinRAR knows when to quit, and is free
If it’s your own machine, I recommend running one of the Windows 11 debloaters.
I’ve moved all of my personal machines over to Linux (specifically Ubuntu). Windows just isn’t worth it anymore.
That’s a good recommendation, I actually did run a windows debloater/spyware before. This just happened to be snuck in with an update I guess? I should probably do it again at this point.
I wouldn’t use Windows if I didn’t have too…I do run Tails and Ubuntu as well but unfortunately 40hrs+ a week on Windows…it sucks.
You have to run it again after every major update.
Run the debloater every update. Some stuff in there is actual settings, but other stuff will be “repaired” by windows.
Also, a workaround to that screen (so far, at least) is to shut the computer down and start up again and it doesn’t return till next update.
Question: if you already don’t like Windows, I assume you don’t care about the new features that come with new updates. So I wonder - why do you update at all? Set everything up as you want it, remove all the hot garbage as you see fit, and disable updates.
Skipping software updates is not a good idea, let alone OS updates. Inbetween all the terribly annoying bullshit they insist on foisting off on people, they do provide security patches and so on.
Primarily for drivers and security updates.
You have a point, I could turn off updates and manually update as I need too but my frustration is that there are ads in the first place.
my frustration is that there are ads in the first place
Fair enough, a very good point.
Personally I’ve been using customized / debloated versions of windows for a couple years now and have not looked back. Every time I spin up a stock Windows VM I’m shocked how atrocious the experience is. Though I understand that a Windows ISO modified by an unknown third party can be scary to some.
How do you like the Snap store and snap packages being pushed on you silently when you try to install packages through APT? :)
Give them a break. They just moved from Windows, you just need to relearn to breath after that. Moving to another distro is a small step in comparison.
Not new to Linux, it’s literally what I’ve been dealing with for work for the last decade. I just meant that I moved the last of my personal machines away from Windows.
I have run into zero issues installing packages from other places. The snap store is a bit annoying but not a big deal. I’ve been on and off using Ubuntu since ~2005 so that’s why I went with it over another distro. No room for elitism for certain distros - everyone has different reasons for picking what they use. We can all agree to hate on Windows though.
You want a broken Windows install? This is how you get a broken Windows install.
Speaking from experience here. I’ve done this on over a dozen different computers with zero issues over a three month span. It was part of a proposal for transitioning our company computers to Windows 11 while cutting out the junk. None of them had any problems running without Xbox services, Cortana, bloatware games, activity tracking, etc.
We ended up using Microsoft Intune for restricting Windows 10/11 to our standards. But that’s not really available for consumers and debloaters are safe to use instead.
The most infuriating thing about windows to me is the big stupid fucking red X on every single file, reminding me that I’m not currently storing my shit on someone else’s computer. Is there a way to remove that service from my computer entirely?
Uninstall onedrive
That’s what I did, it’s one of the few things that it does let you uninstall.
Disable Manage folder backup feature in OneDrive settings -> Backup -> Manage backup -> Stop backup on all folders, or toggle them off on newer version.
It’s not your computer, it’s Microsoft’s. That’s the message I get from using windows.
In otherwords, it’s Apple now, but with none of the benefits.
It is literally not - they sell licenses to large companies, and individual users are only an afterthought.
I swear this gets posted weekly, there’s a simple solution but it’s always missing from the comments.
Go into notification settings
Uncheck “Suggest ways I can finish setting up my device to get the most out of Windows”
While you’re at it, turn off any of the other suggestion / recommendation settings.
Except Microsoft will occasionally reset settings on updates.
I did already have this turned off, and it still pops things up like this and trying to get me to sign into a Microsoft account. It’s just annoying and they don’t provide an option to skip or don’t remind me again which makes it even worse.
The problem is, there’s no immediately visible option to stop this crap; stopping said crap therefore takes time, which is an individual person’s single most valuable resource. People have to go searching through settings or go googling ‘how do I do this’ in order to disable this, and even that slight inconvenience means there’s going to be a lot of people that want to disable it, but end up not bothering, and that’s not a good thing. Rule of thumb, if it’s not absolutely trivial to do on a whim, it may as well be impossible.
This kind of shit is what made me switch to Linux. I just didn’t feel like I owned my computer anymore.
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I would love to switch, I’ve used Linux a few times but primary use of my machine is for gaming, Valve have done wonders with Proton and the Steamdeck but imo it’s probably not quite there yet?
Depends what kind of games you play. Games like Fortnite, Roblox (though it seems a workaround is being worked on?), R6 won’t work because of their anticheat systems.
Personally, 100% of my Steam library of 200+ games work perfectly on Proton.
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Last time I’ve tried gaming on Linux I had a bad time even connecting my controllers on it, it’s plug and play on windows, do you think there has been any improvement on that regard?
Is not only improved, but it’s getting better. I find it hard that a controller didn’t work on Linux. Which ones were there? Xbox works plug and play, always had. Linux got Play Station controls to work on them before Windows had a driver for them. Originally those things were paid options on Windows. Third party are pretty much cookie cutter drivers that all have always worked seamlessly on Linux. If you have any lingering doubt, you can read the reviews on the Steam Deck, essentially, if it works on a Steam Deck, it will work on a PC with Linux installed. Steam’s BigScreen mode turns any regular PC into a controller-centric Console like experience.
Yeah, I play with generic ps4-like controllers. I’ve been really considering switching to Linux these days, but I feel like such a beginner… Anyway, thanks for the response!
Don’t support Windows. Just use windows activation scripts and run Chris Titus Tech’s Windows security and debloating script. If you can, you’re better off on Linux.
They are desperate because 2/3 of their userbase still uses Windows 10.
Look, i don’t mind the CPU/TPM requirement too much now, but did you really needed to mess up the interface? (Plus, forcing you to have Teams always installed.)
Several things always installed, it’s annoying really lol
That pops up on every feature update on win11. But you’re on the preview channel which is known to push and test experimental features. I’d suggest you unenroll your device if stuff like more ads for 365 or missing features for testing purposes bug you. Microsoft even regularly roll out one feature for a percentage of testers and take it away from the rest, just to see what happens.
Go to Settings > System > Notifications. Turn off the last three check boxes. This screen won’t come back.
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The Windows 11 Set Up Wizard with the following text: Let’s finish setting up your PC Your PC needs to be backed up and connected to a few more Microsoft services to help you work more easily and securely across all your devices. Back up your files with OneDrive cloud storage Have peace of mind knowing they’re backed up and available across your devices. Enhance your web browsing experience Restore Microsoft recommended browser settings. Achieve more with a Microsoft 365 subscription Get premium Microsoft 365 apps, 1 TB of cloud storage to back up files and photos, and more. Back up your phone to your PC Access your phone’s photos, texts, and more, right on your PC. Sign in quickly with Windows Hello Securely unlock your device with a touch or a smile. Below are the buttons Remind me in 3 days and Continue
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The thing that really rubs me the wrong way about all this is we pay for Windows, I have 3 licenses for Windows 11 and it’s gotten so annoying that I don’t even use them anymore. I’ve been a Linux user for quite a while already and between Microsoft’s doing more and more data collection, and more ads, I just walked away from it a couple years ago. Fortunately, I was in a position where I could do so. I feel bad for folks that must use Windows for this or that and can’t escape it.
You just have to pick your poison. Windows is easy to use. I don’t want a walled garden ios machine, nor do I want to spend 2 hours on a forum trying to troubleshoot every little thing on Linux.
That’s not really how Linux is now. At least not Ubuntu varieties
As a Linux user I can tell you that I run into plenty of issues no matter what distro I use. I still prefer it over windows.
Exactly this. Tried Linux mint a while but everything was a hastle for me as a new user. Every program I wanted to install had a different method to do so. I ended up not much using the laptop where I installed it on. A pity, I love alternative software.
Windows is bullshit
