• flossdaily@lemmy.world
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    They guy attempted a coup. He should be on trial for his life right now… and still 30+% of Americans might support him.

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    I guess that’s a good thing, but that % should be way higher for someone that committed treason, among numerous other crimes (as well as being just a terrible person in general.)

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    So 36% of Americans are fucking dumb. Which is lower than I would’ve guessed.

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      Been the same for 6 years. Even damn poll - he’s always hovering around that number no matter how hard he’s fucking up.

      A lot of people really believe that Trump, the man who puts his name on everything, is a selfless martyr. Not a wealthy grifter looking for new suckers willing to line his pockets with cash.

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    Yeah, screw that. Don’t trust polls, vote like your democracy and your life depend on it.

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        Having an election system where the majority of the votes doesn’t win is blatantly undemocratic and downright insane. As evidenced by the last two times that happened in the US.

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      I was curious about who the 64% of Americans are, because I’ve never done a poll in my life. This is what I found:

      NORC gathers data for the polls through its probability-based AmeriSpeak® Panel, a breakthrough survey approach that achieves an industry-leading response rate and includes difficult-to-reach demographic groups, such as rural and low-income households.

      For AmeriSpeak’s Omnibus survey, 1,000 nationally representative adults age 18 and older are drawn from the AmeriSpeak Panel and are interviewed online and by phone.

      The people that are drawn from the panel are all preregistered. So these people sign up, and are asked questions every month. The same people. Every month. Then they do some sort of probability math on those numbers and run it as a news story.

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        That’s how polls work. I’m not sure if you genuinely don’t know, but that’s just how they are done.

        You can very accurately extrapolate data on the entire population with just 1000 participants. The flaw is in geography distribution, population distribution, willingness to poll, and other types of sample bias, but if they account for those then that’s perfectly valid.

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          I did not know. That’s why I said I didn’t know and looked it up, and then shared the info i found :)

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            Good on you for looking it up. I’ve seen so many comments from people who don’t look it up and just go “they only asked 2000 people so this is bullshit”. I initially had thought your original comment would be just another one of those till I read it all.

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    the fact that there are about 100 million Americans who didn’t say they wouldn’t support Trump says a lot about the state of America

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      We also wouldn’t be limited to choosing from exactly two choices if we want our vote to impact the election.

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      And the Democrats fight against it, because they are just as much part of the anti-democratic systems as the outright fascists.

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    Just a reminder that Republicans have won the popular vote once in the last 30 years, despite holding office for 12 of them.

    What a majority of people want doesn’t really matter in our system.

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    As dismayingly low as that appears, I think more or less as good as it’s gonna get for a while. Between Fox, Trump’s enablers/sycophants, and the man himself, they’ve been able to pretty much enrapture the lowest third of the bell curve, and it’s gonna take a while for that to pass - if it ever does.

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    I’d never vote for Trump, but i’m not really thrilled to vote for Biden either. I think both options suck.

    Since there is no other option we’ll end up with Biden again probably, just depends how much power hate and fear has nowadays.

    I’m in Massachusetts so voting blue doesn’t mean anything in the presidential race. With the divide between conservative and liberal getting worse and worse I wonder how the battleground states will swing this time around.

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        You don’t just vote for a president. It’s not presidential election day, it’s voting day. The presidential vote is worthless but the rest isn’t.

        The primaries are where most of the magic happens too.

        Most people ignore state and local positions but those greatly influence real world consequences. Federal law changes at a glacial pace due to all the bullshit. State stuff happens and takes effect usually within a couple of years here without a flip flop every 8 years. So yes, i’ll be voting.

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      Vote Democrat straight ticket, voting blue means everything, every where, every single fucking time. It’s incredible people still don’t appreciate this after points to literally everything

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        I’ve voted straight Democrat for 10 years and I hate it. I don’t believe the US is as polarized as its portrayed. But our options are either “Fascist” or “At least we’re not those guys”. I HOPE ranked choice voting becomes a thing in our lifetime.

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          I appreciate that you hate it, as much as I appreciate the fact you keep doing it, for all of us. Truly. Here’s to a better tomorrow.

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        I assume the guy was referring to the electoral college. Massachusetts votes overwhelmingly blue, so after we collect all the electoral votes, the rest of us are just icing on that cake

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      This 3 foot pile of dog shit in my living room is really disgusting and I don’t like it one bit. On the other hand it was kinda disorganized in here before the dog shit and that was kinda sucky too.