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        The term Brussels effect was coined in 2012 by Professor Anu Bradford of Columbia Law School[1][2][3] and named after the similar California Effect that can be seen within the United States.

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          The Brussels effect is the process of unilateral regulatory globalisation caused by the European Union de facto (but not necessarily de jure) externalising its laws outside its borders through market mechanisms.

          The California effect is the shift of consumer, environmental and other regulations in the direction of political jurisdictions with stricter regulatory standards. The name is derived from the spread of some advanced environmental regulatory standards that were originally adopted by the U.S. state of California and eventually adopted in other states.

          The Brussels/California effects are when the EU/California make a law that applies to the EU/California but for various reasons is followed globally/across the US

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    I mean, we knew they were going to have to make usb-c phones since the EU and the Saudis both are going to require it. And they’ve been making usb-c iPads for a while, I have a hundred of them at work

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      Apple knew it too. Even without pressure from the EU’s upcoming laws around USBC, they knew we would all riot if they clung to Lightning. iPads, Macs, have all moved on.

      Just. USBC all the things. Let me die in a world with one fucking cable. Please. Can we at least do that as a society?

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        C’mon, Apple doesn’t give a shit if people riot over USB.

        The ONLY reason this is happening is regulation. Apple would keep their shitty proprietary wire forever if they could. Compatibility with other hardware does not matter to a company with a fully closed ecosystem like Apple.

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          It’s really frustrating how stubborn and backward Apple has been with the iPhone. It’s 100% just so they can use a proprietary cable.

          The crazy thing is they were on the consortium that helped develop USB-C and had one of the very first computers to even have the port! MacBook Pros were ALL USB-C at a time when there were close to zero accessory makers supporting the then brand new cable.

          Anyway, extremely happy that lightning will finally die.

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          They even begin to implement it in some beats products before going all usb-c.

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          Apple would keep their shitty proprietary wire forever if they could.

          Nah, eventually they’d replace it with another shitty proprietary cable

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        Incoming proprietary cable that won’t let you data transfer or charge beyond 5w if you use a generic one.

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      Bet you they will make their cable charge non iPhones slower… adding some proprietary tech inside the charger, phone or cable which only allows fast charging on Official Apple Certified products etc.

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        I don’t know why people think this. USB-C is on every Apple product except iPhone and AirPods, and they were quite an early adopter of it, putting it on the MacBook in 2015. For comparison, the first Samsung phone with USB-C was the Note 7, 1.5 years later.

        They’ve done nothing proprietary with it in all that time, and Apple products with USB-C have followed the spec quite closely (unlike offenders such as Nintendo). Outside of unsubstantiated rumours and FUD, there’s no reason to think they’ll do anything different.

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          They do have a solid rumor that they’re sticking with USB 2.0 speeds for for the USB C iPhone and that non-MFI certified cables may be slow charging only, so while I’ve got my finger’s crossed that’s false since I’m an iPhone guy, Apple still seems to be looking for a way to skirt the EU and still get the accessory cut.

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            USB 2.0 I would buy, I’m sure they have the telemetry to tell them that like less than 1% of iPhones are ever plugged into a computer or data accessory at this point. USB 3 would be nice but it’s not a dealbreaker for almost anyone.

            MFI certification I don’t. They didn’t do it with iPads or MacBooks, why with iPhones? It just doesn’t pass the smell test. Just one product that shares the same connector with all their other products has an MFI program but all the others don’t? Even though when it was Lightning, MFI applied to all of them?

            It’s possible they will launch a program, but it will just be one that allows you to put the little “MFI” icon on your box. It won’t be one that will limit charging speeds. I get the uncertainty if this was the first Apple product to switch to USB, but it’s the last major one. Just wouldn’t make sense.

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          Genuinely curious, how did Nintendo change their specs for USB C? I still charge both my steam deck and switch off the charger my deck came with, but only the deck works with the usb-c to hdmi dongle I got. How does that work?

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        Yep, and Samsung (basically the apple of android) already does this. It’s annoying having all these old proprietary Samsung fast chargers around now that I’ve switched to google. They still charge decently, I just wish everyone would use the free fast charging standard

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        They’ve already got that. Cables need to be “MFI Certified” by Apple so charging works correctly.

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    I’ve almost swapped to Apple a few times and now with Google and the DRM bit, even though I use Firefox it still grinds my gears.

    Come September I may have my first iPhone.

    From my Pixel 6 pro

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      I have a 14 pro max and lack of usb c is probably the only thing I don’t like about the phone.

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      My personal phone is a second hand iPhone XS, upgraded from a OnePlus One, and my work phone is a Pixel 6.

      The XS is the best phone I’ve ever had, and I enjoy using it. Can’t say the same for the Pixel.

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          Absolutely.

          Size-wise the iPhone XS is much smaller than the Pixel 6. When I travel for work, I chuck my work phone in the backpack, and my personal phone goes in the pocket. Both fit in the pocket should I want to, but the Pixel 6 just feels really cumbersome. The iPhone is still a bit too large to comfortably reach the top of the screen without stretching though, but that’s solved with software. If I swipe down on the bar at the bottom of the screen, the entire screen kind of “scrolls down” allowing me to easily reach whatever is at the top of the screen without stretching, using multiple hands, or holding the phone awkwardly.

          iOS is full of small but nifty features like that. Like being able to use the touch keyboard as a sort of trackpad to navigate with the text cursor. You can press and hold on subjects in photos to extract them. If you tap the status bar when scrolled down in a page, it scrolls to the top.

          Most of all though, it’s very unintrusive. I loved my OnePlus One, but towards the end of its lifetime I was struggling with it a lot. OS updates stopped years before I stopped using it, so I had to manually flash stuff, that was a hassle. Enabling NFC payments after that was a pain. Every so often apps crash or become unresponsive, and the OS slows down after a while.

          Even my Pixel that I really only use as a wifi tether, app development, and as an authenticator for work isn’t that snappy. If I’ve been in an app for a while getting back to the homescreen has a slight delay, the gestures throughout the OS are basically the same, but they just feel a bit off, the fingerprint reader doesn’t work reliably all of the time.

          These are issues I just don’t have with my iPhone. It’s crashed once in the three years I’ve had it, not counting the testflight (beta) apps I’ve had. Everything feels really polished too. The design language is mature, the apps all look and run great, there are no delays when swiping or clicking inputs, gestures don’t have weird “lock on” points. There’s a lot of really subtle things that Apple does right, like the haptics, that just don’t feel or work as well on my Pixel. The widgets are fantastic too, and customisation has gotten better over the years as well. I love the lock screens.

          When I first bought my iPhone I wasn’t entirely sold. I really missed the ability to have two apps on the screen at once, and I honestly still miss that. I don’t really miss anything else though.

          That said, I have my Pixel because there are things it can do that my iPhone can’t. I’d need to buy a Mac if I want to setup development on it, and that just feels like a hassle. I’ve also been hoping for better dictation and such to arrive soon, since the Pixel has really stellar dictation features. I also think I’d make use of the voice recorder app more if it had the ability to transcribe what I say to text, though even there Android falls a bit short since I’m a polyglot, and it only supports a singular language at a time, and not even my native tongue.

          I guess in short, my phone just doesn’t get in the way. There’s nothing about it that ever bothers me, and most of the time I don’t even think about it when I use it. It does what I need it to, when I need it, and it’s never failed me in that aspect in the three years I’ve had it.

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            Like being able to use the touch keyboard as a sort of trackpad to navigate with the text cursor.

            To be fair this particular feature is in both Google Keyboard and Samsung Keyboard, and I imagine others too.

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            That’s a fantastic breakdown! I appreciate you taking the time to write this out.

            The voice transcription worries me. I use it all the time to take notes while listing to audio books on the road.

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      Why not install GrapheneOS since you already have a pixel. It’s better privacy and security than either a stock pixel or an iPhone.

      Going from Google to Apple because of the DRM push from Google doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. Apple is at the frontline when it comes to proprietary hardware and software. You won’t even be able to use Firefox on an iPhone, you’d be locked into Safari.

      All 3rd party browsers on the app store are mandated to just be wrappers around Safari’s engine. If Apple decides to adopt the web DRM, you will have no choice but to support it.

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    iPhone 15 having USB-C is a great example of public pressure—and legislation, of course—being effective in enacting meaningful change.

    ⬜ Getting Apple to adopt RCS messaging is next.

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      I read a little bit into that (the third thing google spit out, but I use Adblock, VPN and no account and cookies so they loose money)

      Isn’t that the same as iMessage but between all operating systems?

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    I’m kind of surprised they didn’t just drop a pretty altogether and rely on mag-safe and airdrop.

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      I hope they don’t do that until they force car manufacturers to be using wireless CarPlay for years. If they drop a port, a lot of car owners won’t be able to use CarPlay.

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    It’s like every family will get a raise since they don’t have to buy $100 in cables every year

    I’m still on the same USBC cable and a USBC car charger that I got with my pixel 1 (8 years ago)

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      That’s great if you have usb-c devices already (which somehow most people do). I’m going to have to replace every charger in multiple places (3-7 at home, 2 in the car, 3 at work) with entirely new ones. I literally have nothing that charges from usb-c.

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        That’s great if you have usb-c devices already (which somehow most people do).

        Are you really surprised that most people have some sort of device with a connector that came out 8 years ago? This isn’t exactly new technology, It’s so common now it’s even on super cheap stuff. I bought an electronic lighter from Amazon last summer and it charges with USB C.

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        I hear you, but I think a lot of us just amortized that cost over time as we’ve gotten those devices, same as you will now, but at least it’s cheaper to start now than 5 years ago?

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    toss

    Don’t throw them out yet if they work flawlessly. Give them to someone you know or just leave them somewhere. Also, you might need your old iPhone for some reason and so you should probably keep one (possibly semi-broken) cable.

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    The fact that they had to be legally forced to do this shows that users were never in their best interest.

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    Need iPhone 16 or 17 with a waterproof replaceable battery so I can swap batteries while camping. Not needing to fuss with solar chargers would be awesome.

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    Finally. Every time I go on a trip and pack a USB-C charger for my iPad, my laptop, my headphones, and have to bring an additional lightning one just for my phone drives me (slightly) crazy.

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    Ok. Now I just need to replace my expensive headphones when those come out, and I’ll be free of lightening. I’m guess it won’t be for a while, as ok don’t like replacing expensive things with minor updates.