I think for me it’s alien: covenant. I was really interested in the ideas explored in prometheus and covenant just expanded on them. I don’t get much into the details of why it is or isn’t a good movie.

Luckily, though, HBO ran raised by wolves which really delved into ideals about AI and planet seeding etc. So that itch got way scratched even if the run was cut short.

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        That’s one where I really think they missed the mark compared to the book. I thought the book was really well done, and had a great premise. Idk the movie just left a sour taste in my mouth. I highly recommend reading/listening to the book

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          I saw somewhere on reddit recently calling the book worse than the movie. I liked the book only because I got to envision my version of all the nostalgic iconography. I’m not sure why reddit was hating.

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          I’m glad that you enjoyed it, but listening to the audiobook was one of the most aggravating reading experiences I’ve had. There were cool bits, but every chapter or two my eyes would glaze over for a minute as Wil Wheaton read off a list of things from the 80’s for a paragraph or two, interrupting whatever flow the book had going on at the time to cram ‘memberberries down my throat. I prefer the movie because I can look at the ‘memberberry references without them interrupting the other cool bits.

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        I like the movie where the person go into the computer :)

        Even Lawnmower Man 2: Beyond Cyberspace?

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        Lol, I really like premise too. It can be done better, tho.

        That’s why I support all sorts of sci-fi that is complete garbage. I want the genre to thrive and if we stop showing up Hollywood stops giving money.

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      It’s a work of art.

      A simple tropey story to hang some amazing visual and aural art off.

      I watch it often.

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      Watched it not long ago. Didn’t realize the people rating it have no appreciation for decent movies.

      It wasn’t phenomenal by any means but it was quite entertaining for the duration of it.

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      I still think League of Extraordinary Gentlemen got unfairly dragged. 16% on Rotten Tomatoes.

      It is a pretty mediocre movie overall, but it is just a lot of fun and I have watched it a dozen times.

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      Surprised it hasn’t come back as a streaming channel series of films like “Knives Out”. It’s got a lot of potential.

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      I remember screening league of extraordinary gentleman and all I could think is it was probably not for me. Not to say someone else wouldn’t like it. I feel like not everything should be rated based on its wide spread appeal.

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      I don’t disagree that it’s a terrible movie, it’s just a terrible movie that I happened to really like.

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      League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

      pretty sure I watched it in the theater while it was new and I didn’t think it was a waste of time but it is forgettable. It’s only really remarkable thing is being Sean Connery’s last movie

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    Bladerunner 2049.

    I know a lot of people disliked it compared to the first one, even Ridley Scott himself. But I love the direction Denis Villeneuve took this film in.

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      Did people dislike it compared to the first one? It’s got an 88% on rotten tomatoes, and anyone I’ve talked with about the films prefers the second one.

      I agree with you, by the way, I just don’t think that’s the unpopular take (Ridley’s opinion is meaningless at this point).

    • One of the few sequels that did credit to the original. Like the original Alien trilogy, it’s best if you consider them movies in the same universe but different genres. Like, Aliens (I) was a suspense; II was a sci-fi action; III was a horror thriller.

      Maybe the Blade Runners weren’t so very different in genre, but yeah - good sequel, and in its way faithful to the original.

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      Was that the one loosely based on Beowulf? I saw it in the theater and didn’t have a problem with it.

      Aha!

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_13th_Warrior

      “based on Michael Crichton’s 1976 novel Eaters of the Dead,[5] which is a loose adaptation of the tale of Beowulf combined with Ahmad ibn Fadlan’s historical account of the Volga Vikings.”

      Crichton, man. His influence was just astounding. Obligatory “fuck cancer”.

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      This is one of those that HBO or something played non-stop for no apparent reason. It took me like 20 times clicking past it to finally watch it all but in the end I was ok with it.

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      I enjoyed it for the most part, but the scene that’s always stuck with me is when Antonio Banderas’s character learns to speak the Viking language. Hearing the way he said “I listened” made me want to listen more to see what I could learn.

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    Sucker Punch. Objectively, it’s not really that great of a movie. But it’s one of the most fun movies I’ve ever seen. It’s got over-the-top action sequences, an amazing soundtrack, and a genuinely unique idea for a story that I haven’t really seen done before.

    The final cut ended up removing a very key scene that ties a lot of the story together, which I honestly feel is part of why the movie was so poorly-received, because the theatrical release just doesn’t make sense and ends abruptly. If you decide to watch it, try to find a version that has the deleted scene with the High Roller near the end. It’s a full five minutes of dialogue that ties the entire story together and Warner Brothers scrapped it and it drives me so crazy. It’s like an “I Am Legend’s deleted ending” level of directorial blunder, IMO.

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    Jupiter Ascending is, in my opinion, a masterpiece. Bees can sense royalty? Fantastic. The bureaucracy android having to bribe his way through the system he was literally created to navigate? Marvelous. Don’t even get me started on the air roller skates. Eddie Redmayne’s four million year old teenager was perfection too. Two volume levels: harsh whisper or screaming.

    It was marketed as some kind of amazing epic, so people approached it wrong I think. It was a Wachowski film. What were they expecting? I went in there assuming it’d be like their Speed Racer movie, but in space. I was not disappointed.

    Second vote would be for Speed Racer, lol.

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      My biggest issue with that movie was the complete lack of chemistry between Mila Kunis and that beefy guy who was her love interest. I found that painful to watch.

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      “Ninjas? More like ‘Non-Jas’. Shame what passes for a Ninja these days…”

      And with that, John Goodman became my favorite, ever. :)

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      I saw this years ago in a sci fi double feature at this big old cinema in my city, had Interstellar followed by Jupiter Ascending. I loved it, this very serious dry high concept hard sci fi followed by fuckin rocket boots!

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    League of Extraordinary Gentlemen

    Tron Legacy

    Guyver: Dark Hero

    Strange Days (get the ultimate extended edition fan edit if you can.)

    Wild Wild West

    Demolition Man

    Judge Dredd

    Highlander II

    Jacob Barlow vs the Demonic Toys

    There are a lot of fun movies that are considered garbage.

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      Highlander two? Man, you do you, but that’s an acquired taste. I’d have a hard time picking to place it above or below Rise of Skywalker.

      If you enjoy so bad it’s good: In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale.

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      Judge Dredd was quite good even though Stallone took the helmet off a bunch. IIRC he was willing to do the whole thing in helmet, but I bet the money guys needed to see his face.

      Never thought I’d see the Angel Family on film, that was wild!

      Bonus: The actor playing psychotic cannibal Pa Angel would go on to be the kindly farmer Herschel on Walking Dead.

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        Damn, never made that connection about herschel. I like Stallones dredd just because it’s so quotable.

        Eat recycled food. It’s good for the environment and okay for you.

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          Oh, he definitely did, but I think the Stallone version better captured the absolute bonkers feeling of the comics.

          I just hope the next time someone tackles it we get the Dark Judges storyline, but that might be too expensive to pull off outside full animation.

    • Wait… Stallone Dredd, or Urban Dredd? Because the Stallone one was awful and a crime against the source material, while the second should have had an immediate sequel.

      League I can’t even put into the “so bad it’s good” category, as much as I’d like to. I think I can’t forgive them for wasting such a cast and such a source on the result.

      I hated Legacy, but entirely for reasons having to do with loyalty to the original; it isn’t faithful to the original vision, IMO. That aside, I can grant it was better than it was received.

      🤝 on Strange Days. Fantastic soundtrack, too. Did it get bad reviews? I thought it did reasonably well.

      Same for WWW - didn’t it do well? I thought it was brilliantly irreverent of history. Fun times. Same for Demolition Man!

      Highlander II, though… No. Just no. A running joke with a couple of my friends is that they insist we all saw it together in the theater, but I insist I’ve never seen it. They say it was so bad that I just blacked out my memory to avoid the emotional trauma of having seen it. Honestly though, I have no memory of the film yet a deep revulsion at the idea of watching it.

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      Had one gag that made me literally LOL… intentionally…

      They’re trapped in a library, debating the morality of burning books in the fireplace to stay alive.

      “How about all these tax books, can we burn these?”

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        “Is there a chance that it will run…” grabs a bottle “…on this?”

        “Are you mad? That’s a twelve years old scotch!” reveals cups

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    Kung Pow: Enter the Fist. Yes it’s utterly ridiculous. I don’t care, it’s still a masterpiece of absurdity to me. That 13% on RT is a shame.

    Also how has it been 23 years since its release.

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    Great recommendations in here. One thing that surprised me personally was

    civil war (2024)

    great movie, had a blast. Was surprised rotten tomatoes / IMDb seemed to hate it.

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      My running theory on this is the Americans really didn’t like how close it hits home/stings, and just gave it a bad rating

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      I wouldn’t say 81% fresh and a 7/10 are necessarily bad. I might rate it a little higher personally, but those are decent scores.

      Though as Coaxil says, given curent events I’m not sure I can ever re-watch it. :(

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    Super Mario Bros (1993)

    It was objectively a trainwreck but it was awesome when you were 8 and It brought video games to the big screen for the first time. I will always love it.

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    I think everyone should see the 2019 Cats. I was not bored, and I had a strong emotional reaction to the movie. Was it shit? Oh absolutely, in ways that I didn’t even know movies could be shit. But it was not boring! So if I were going to recommend a movie to someone who hadn’t seen it yet, Cats would be near the top of that list.

    Movies that I actually love despite them having poor ratings…

    • Event Horizon - 6.6 IMDB / 35% RT - Haunted house in space. Great performances from a great cast. Properly fucked up. Love seeing blue collar workers in scifi.

    • Death to Smoochy - 6.3 IMDB / 42% RT - See Robin Williams go hard on the R-rating playing a children’s show host on a downward spiral. One of my favorite Williams performances.

    • Legend (1985) - 6.3 IMDB / 41% RT - Shot entirely inside of a huge bag of cocaine. All vibes, don’t question any of it, logic has no place here. Watch the theatrical cut with Tangerine Dream, because the director’s cut with Jerry Goldsmith is honestly just vague fantasy noodling, and the 80s power jams are at least 40% of the charm.

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        I really like the fanon that it’s a prequel to Warhammer 40k before the Gellar Field was invented.

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      If Event Horizon has bad ratings that is my answer, love that movie, I thought it was universally considered good though.

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      I think the thing with Cats is that it’s totally OK if a broadway musical has no plot and doesn’t make sense, you’re going for the experience.

      Film has a history of narrative and you just can’t drop in a word like “jellicle” and expect to get away with it.

      OTOH complaining about jellicle in Cats would be a lot like walking out of a Smurfs movie complaining about “Man, they sure do say ‘Smurf’ a lot.”

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        I think the thing with Cats is that it’s totally OK if a broadway musical has no plot and doesn’t make sense

        As a lover of musicals, HELL no! Cats is probably the worst musical I’ve ever seen and that’s INCLUDING every amateur production. Yes, school play originals too.

        Apart from the not making sense, it has ONE great song (the others ranging from awful to meh), which it repeats so many times that you’re on the verge of getting tired of it by the time the Elder Kitty reveals that cats aren’t dogs.

        -10/10, would force Trump, Musk, Putin, and Netanyahu to watch on repeat until they die as punishment for their crimes against humanity.

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    No idea what the actual ratings are, but the live action remake of Aladdin was absolutely shat on by most of the internet. The original Aladdin was one of my absolute favorites as a kid, so I was gonna see the remake good or bad, and… honestly, fucking loved it.

    I’m guessing the main breaking point for people was the lack of Robin Williams’ Genie, but Disney had the option of trying recreate that genie without Robin Williams or completely remake that character’s personality. Had they gone with the former, it 100% would have 1) flopped, and 2) been kinda disrespectful to Robin Williams imo. Starting fresh was the correct choice. And Will Smith did awesome with his version of Genie.

    Beyond that, it introduced just enough new shit to make it not just feel like a frame-by-frame copy/paste of the original; but overall kept the same fun mystical vibe of the original.

    It earns its spot on the shelf, imo.

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    The Green Hornet with Seth Rogan was my favourite film for a long time. I did not understand why people didn’t love it as much as I did.

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    I have two:

    Chalet Girl - Romcom meets 1980s style Aspen Ski Challenge, Felicity Jones, Bill Nighy, Brooke Shields, and Ed Westwick. I personally love it. It’s a great movie to throw on for a boring day, it has some feels, it’s story is predictable but fun - it’s not winning an Oscar but I enjoy it. 5/5 personal scale, 3/5 general rotten tomatoes

    21 - Very lame smart guy meets Vegas, not a heist, not the social network - Jim Sturgess, Kate Bosworth, Kevin Spacey. Didn’t know this was that high up except for I have multiple plays of it. I watched it after having surgery and remember thinking it was amazing - and then watched it later on less pain killers and thought “Oh, well, it’s fine.” 3/5 personal scale, 1/5 general rotten tomatoes.

    Shoutout to !showsandmovies@lemm.ee if you want more discussion like this!