Summary
Egg prices in the U.S. have reached a record high of $4.95 per dozen amid a severe bird flu outbreak that has led to the culling of millions of egg-laying chickens.
The shortage is compounded by rising feed, fuel, and labor costs, as well as increased demand and stricter cage-free regulations in several states.
Consumers face empty shelves, surcharges, and limited availability, with some areas pricing cartons at $10 or more.
Prices are expected to continue rising, especially with Easter demand.
yea…fucking hilarious how maga sheep all of a sudden seemed to shut the fuck up about egg prices
Assuming they can read anything that isn’t boiled down slop from OAN, Fox, or Breitbart.
Yeah, they should change the book into a tiktok.
In all fairness:
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The tendency to credit or blame the current President for short-term economic conditions, regardless of the actual cause, has been around for a long time.
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The Trump campaign actively worked to help promote the prior impression, that Biden in particular was adopting inflationary policy. It’s not as if voters entirely came to that conclusion on their lonesome.
The first Trump administration had also adopted inflationary policy, and in general, inflation was considered to be desirable by economists in that it would avoid recession.
Voters, on the other hand, are extremely hostile to inflation. I posted a study with a poll a while back of Americans, Germans, and Brazillians showing that in general, the public would rather have a recession than inflation, even though economists will point out that a country is generally worse-off seeing a recession.
And this tendency to attribute short-term economic effects to the sitting President affects both sides of the aisle. The Clinton campaign benefited from the fact that Bush Senior had had a small recession during his term. This wasn’t in particular because he’d done something objectionable – the policy that he had adopted that contributed to it was probably a good idea, like reducing government defense spending at the end of the Cold War. But…voters, as a whole, don’t have a really sophisticated picture of what’s going on here. And the Clinton campaign aimed to exacerbate that against Bush; in that case, a Democratic candidate benefited:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It's_the_economy,_stupid
“The economy, stupid” is a phrase that was coined by James Carville in 1992. It is often quoted from a televised quip by Carville as “It’s the economy, stupid.” Carville was a strategist in Bill Clinton’s successful campaign in the 1992 U.S. presidential election against incumbent George H. W. Bush. His phrase was directed at the campaign’s workers and intended as one of three messages for them to focus on. The others were “Change vs. more of the same” and “Don’t forget health care.”
Clinton’s campaign advantageously used the then-prevailing recession in the United States as one of the campaign’s means to successfully unseat George H. W. Bush. In March 1991, days after the ground war in Kuwait, 90% of polled Americans approved of President Bush’s job performance.[1] During the following year, Americans’ opinions turned sharply; 64% of polled Americans disapproved of Bush’s job performance in August 1992.[1]
Prior to that, Reagan’s campaign sought to exacerbate that same short-term attribution tendency against Carter; there, a Republican candidate benefited again:
In the final week of the 1980 presidential campaign between Democratic President Jimmy Carter and Republican nominee Ronald Reagan, the two candidates held their only debate. Going into the Oct. 28 event, Carter had managed to turn a dismal summer into a close race for a second term. And then, during the debate, Reagan posed what has become one of the most important campaign questions of all time: “Are you better off today than you were four years ago?” Carter’s answer was a resounding “NO,” and in the final, crucial days of the campaign, his numbers tanked. On Election Day, Reagan won a huge popular vote and electoral victory. The “better off” question has been with us ever since.
Governor Reagan: Yes, I would like to add my words of thanks, too, to the ladies of the League of Women Voters for making these debates possible. I’m sorry that we couldn’t persuade the bringing in of the third candidate, so that he could have been seen also in these debates. But still, it’s good that at least once, all three of us were heard by the people of this country.
Next Tuesday is election day. Next Tuesday all of you will go to the polls; you’ll stand there in the polling place and make a decision. I think when you make that decision, it might be well if you would ask yourself, are you better off than you were 4 years ago? Is it easier for you to go and buy things in the stores than it was 4 years ago? Is there more or less unemployment in the country than there was 4 years ago?
Unless and until administrations figure out how to effectively communicate that they haven’t done something wrong just because there is some characteristic of the economy that is negative – and do so even when their opposition has a strong incentive to communicate that they have – they are probably going to be vulnerable to this.
While it’s unfortunate that voters do this, it’s a hard problem to solve. You’re not going to go out and provide everyone in the US with an understanding of the economics behind everything that happens in the US. Much as I would love everyone out there to have a deep store of knowledge in many areas, some of how society has made gains is to accept that societies are not going to be made up of a bunch of generalists, but rather to have specialization of labor. If we have to expend time to teach every person economics, it’s time that they can’t be learning other things, and if they don’t use economics in most of their life – even if, gosh darn it, it would be nice if they do around elections – then it’s taking away from a skillset that may be more-critical. And, more-broadly, the general public certainly cannot come up to speed on every policy that the US government deals with – the scope is far too large.
We’re working on trying to get the general population able to understand graphs; the US isn’t even particularly strong here among countries with a similar level of economic development:
kagis
https://3iap.com/numeracy-and-data-literacy-in-the-united-states-7b1w9J_wRjqyzqo3WDLTdA/
Numeracy rates in the United States are middling compared to other countries surveyed, and much lower than numeracy leaders like Japan, Finland, and the Netherlands (“Benchmark Countries” above, per src). For 2012–2014 results, a typical US Adult’s score was 257 (src), putting them solidly in the Level 2 range (226–276 points, src, pg 71). Just 39% of US adults tested as proficient (level 3 or higher), compared to 61% for the benchmark countries (src).
So if just four in ten US adults perform above Level 3, then six in ten struggle to “recognize and work with mathematical relationships, patterns, and proportions expressed in verbal or numerical form; and can interpret and perform basic analyses of data and statistics in texts, tables and graphs.”
“These results are another signal that many Americans struggle with the most basic of math skills,” says NCES Associate Commissioner Peggy Carr (src).
Trying to convey the issues if you don’t have the skillset necessary to even read some of the basic visualizations that one might use is not easy.
And this isn’t an area where you can go and say “well, we’ll just go use some of our people who do have that expertise”, the way we might for many tasks. Voters are everyone. So if what you want is an understanding of the issues behind policy, then it’s going to have to go to everyone.
My guess is that any sort of successful solution is going to involve finding some kind of entity who is both able to gain the trust of American voters as being objective, who they will choose to listen to rather than someone who is maybe saying what they want to hear on other matters and giving them a conflicting take on economic matters. One party is probably going to probably have an interest in trying to get them to not listen to such an entity. To quote Michael Gove, who was trying to get the UK to Leave in the Brexit fight, despite (most, outside of one notable but small group) economists recommending against it:
Michael Gove touched a populist nerve. Leading up to Britain’s referendum on membership of the European Union, he delivered a soundbite that gained wide currency.
Gove, then Lord Chancellor, declared: “I think the people of this country have had enough of experts with organisations with acronyms saying that they know what is best and getting it consistently wrong
If you can’t do that, then either you are facing just putting up with (1) voters making electoral judgement calls that probably aren’t fantastic based on the economic state of affairs, or (2) actually doing what they want – which is often not a good idea, like tamping down on inflation at the expense of producing a recession – or (3) doing what Trump’s done during his first term in office and which I expect he’s likely to do again, which is giving them political theater to give the impression that the policy they want (e.g. on protectionist trade policy for manufacturing) is being adopted while not actually doing so.
The problem with the political theater route is that it means that the public isn’t acting to keep the administration on a sane policy route any more – it means that the public wants to go make policy that is not a great idea and now the administration is helping encourage those same views, which may increase political pressure and have negative impacts on actual policy down the line. And creating a false perception means one of (1) suppression of the press (think, oh, China or Cold War Soviet Union or something), (2) getting people to self-segregate into a limited number of echo chambers willing to put out controlled messages (hard to do with social media, which has democratized mass media, where anyone with a social media account can inconveniently point out to many that the administration ain’t doing what it’s trying to give the perception that it’s doing), or (3) trying to flood the press with other messages to keep some people from seeing discussion that the administration isn’t doing what supporters are wanting it to do (think Trump administration). Not very appealing.
I like to read, but damn. I would need my glasses and a cup of tea to even get started with this.
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I was expecting a whole raft of letters and op-eds in my local corporate rag (Denver Post) that more or less spew the same old “give him a chance to pivot to being presidential, you guyyyyyyzzzzzz” and “we had to put up with Biden when he was in office and you didn’t see US protesting like this [1]!!! boo hoo hoo” type of stuff for the next several weeks months after he took power. I don’t recall seeing too many of these. Weird.
[1] The fact that these assholes could act like they had to “put up with” Biden when neither Biden or anyone in his administration was trying to target entire demographics and cause “pain” to the American people, etc…completely unlike what donvict is doing. Nevermind that they can sit there and gaslight about not protesting. Protesting is a completely valid and highly American and patriotic tradition - what THEY fucking did when they lost was to throw an insurrection that was run in parallel with a fucking coup attempt.
They are all now experts on the effects of culling chickens for bird flu.
So covid was a hoax but bird flu and measles are real. I’m not quite following.
They might remain real things right up until the moment they have to change one IOTA of their own lives, or if they think it’s making donvict/fElon look bad in some way.
I will never forget how many younger right-leaning/red-pilled types did this collective shrug about Covid, by the way: “that’s something that only impacts old people who just need to die anyway and fat people and/or diabetics, and that’s their own fault, so I should not have to adapt one little bit”. Many of these people in the same generations that a lot of people are telling me are soooo much better than every other generation that ever existed.
Make sure at every opportunity that you call everyone of those fuckers a hypocrite, and if you don’t have to maintain any sort of relationship with them, also make sure they know how much of a cunt they are too.
Is this from that time he stared at the solar eclipse without eye protection?
I still wonder if him staring at the sun was more from him just being a complete idiot, or a “imma gunna show them what a MAN I am! This is some real fucking leadership, I tell u wut!”
Yes.
This is fun
Holy hell that is hilarious on multiple levels.
Am I correct that that is him pointing and looking directly at the sun?
Technically the eclipse which you aren’t supposed to look at. Because you risk going blind.
Fucking idiot.
Yup
Even better, it’s him staring at a solar eclipse
Biden and Obama conspiring in the shadows to help the deep state sabotage trump, obviously.
Having the Jews launch bird flu at farms with their space lasers too.
I hate that I have to, but fucking /s
I skip the /s and leave it as it is as a litmus test over who I can tag with something derogatory for future reference.
Only Democrats’ shadowy cabal control the economy like this, it’s a known fact from Fox News!
Every day Obama wakes up before every American, and personally draws on the price tags of the things a Republican was craving that day with a sharpie, to ensure they yelled at a store clerk.
Biden personally loves to go to a gas station and round up to the nearest dollar, but at Chevron stations it’s the nearest dollar plus 13 cents.
Hilary Clinton uses space lasers to make streaming services remove content and increase the cost.
spoiler
This was fun to just go off and write, have the Republicans considered making a weird sci-fi world to role play in, instead of ruining the world?
The background should probably be the Russian flag.
Swastika would be more accurate.
Is it day 1 yet?
Just yesterday my friend texted that his local bodega in the Bronx is selling $1 loosies or $12/dozen. Fucking egg loosies. What’s next? Egg dealers on Gun Hill?
Refrigerated trenchcoat sales on the subway.
Got ya free range here. Extra large. Whites and browns.
Or just sell the non processed eggs that’s easier since they don’t need to be refrigerated
You see the Daily Show sketch?
No, did they do that?
People will be selling black market eggs in back alleys soon.
There was a news story a few days ago about somebody heisting 144,000 eggs from a delivery truck in PA.
“Yo, I got them loose ovoids!”
That’s why I would never shop at a bodega. “Let’s make paying more feel cool and trendy.” It’s a fucking 7-11 with incense.
Bodegas are small businesses that are usually very entrenched in the community. This isn’t extortion. It’s a way to make a few eggs affordable. My criticism is of the need for the loosies in the first place.
It doesn’t sound like that person has ever been to a city
It’s so common for tourists to see higher prices than they’re used to and assume the place is a rip off. They have no idea how insane the rent for a tiny shop can be in NYC. Meanwhile, they’ll have no problem dropping $30 for a ‘value meal’ in Times Square.
I agree with your criticism for the need loosies In the first place, But there has been a rising trend where Bodegas In communities, like the Bronx, have taken advantage of an influx of higher earners. If they raise the price for them, they raise the price for all. This is just another form of hyper focused capitalism.
Ah yes. Privately owned corner stores. The ultimate in hyper focused capitalism 🙄
I’m guessing you don’t know what hyper-focused capitalism means.
The irony of that guy recognizing that the only war is the class war and then going after …checks notes… poor immigrants trying to make a living in retail.
NYC doesn’t exactly have massive supermarkets on ever highway intersection. They are convenience stores that fill a need.
That’s not why they do things like that, but stay ignorant.
Feel free to explain you opinion.
Here. I found an article on it. You won’t hear of a corporate manager making the same considerations.
Radhames Rodriguez, owner of Pamela’s Green Deli in the Bronx’s Morrisania section, said the idea of selling loose eggs came to him after seeing customers leaving full cartons on the counter because they couldn’t afford it.
Hoping to help customers in the community, Rodriguez now sells three eggs for $2.99, which he says is a better than paying at least $12 for one carton.
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/egg-prices-bronx-bodegas/
but stay ignorant.
I don’t think that works as well on people as you might think. Perhaps you’re the one who has remained ignorant by dismissing the opinions of others who may have very convincing arguments.
But hey, stay ignorant.
There is no opinion. There is a fact why stores sell loosies, and it’s not “to be cool”. That’s the dumbest most out of touch thing I’ve ever heard.
It’s because people can’t afford the whole thing, so they charge a premium for a single. If they gave a shit they’d just charge 1/12th of a carton of eggs, instead of gouging poor people. 17¢ might sound like a ridiculous amount to complain about to you and I, but if a person cannot afford a $10 carton, I’m guessing that money matters.
“Surcharges”
Is that a the grocer version of “dealer premiums” from when car dealers legally price gouged during the covid parts supply shortages?
It’s gonna be like the USSR except instead of bread shops running out of bread you’re just not going to be able to afford it because the grocer jacked up the price to $30/loaf.
Canned white tuna is now cheaper with more protein per dollar than eggs where I am.
Plus an extra 2000% of your RDA for mercury!
Which they just had a recall on.
Poor Canada, egg prices are the same. /s
I paid $3.93 CAD for a dozen yesterday.
Save on is usually more expensive than other places
Ontario NoFrills?
My close save on (company from graphic) seems to have trouble keeping eggs in stock, plus it’s like $8-9 for free range which I usually try to buy. Their quality (used to be quite orange now more dull, not as yellow as most eggs still) has gone down I hope the chickens are treated better.
Amusingly, the pasture raised eggs are now the same price as the regular eggs at Aldi.
I have a coworker who keeps about 250 chickens at her house and sells the brown eggs for $5 a dozen. Meanwhile, a dozen white eggs at Shop-Rite are $10.
her house?? She must live on a ranch or something
The eggs are pretty small.
Different coloured eggs are different prices in the US?
Yeah. Generally, brown is more expensive than white, organic is more expensive than non-organic, free-range is more expensive than caged etc. The current situation has rendered everything fucking expensive, though.
Hmm - here in England the colour of an egg doesn’t make any difference to its price, or to its taste. But yeah, organic and free range usually cost more. Larger eggs cost more too. I’ve not checked the exchange rate but I’d say it costs about $6 for a dozen free range eggs.
I’d love to keep hens myself but it’s not feasible. I have friends who live on a farm where the chickens just kind of wander about and I swear their eggs taste better than shop bought.
$4.95 for one egg is ridiculous. I won’t pay more than $4.50 an egg. 😤
“It’s one banana, Michael, how much could it cost? 10 dollars?”
Enough already
It’s one quote, @phubarr@lemmy.world, how often could you have seen it? Ten thousand times?
$5. They’re $5.
Great, now they’re 5.99.
That was honestly a good joke.
Its one egg, michael. What could it cost, Ten dollars?
Neighborhood chicken lady went from $2 to $3 a dozen due to the price increase of chicken feed. Hopefully her chickens won’t be affected, mostly for her & her family’s sake.
Just a reminder, if you’re like me and never even look at organic stuff, check the organic eggs. They’re cheaper at my store right now.
Why not look at organic stuff?
I never look at organic stuff because while they may legitimately avoid pesticides and other chemicals, there is no scientifically demonstrated benefit to organic produce, and it costs a lot more.
There’s an implication that organic is healthier and just better, but there’s no evidence of that.
Like I could buy milk from cows that have nice names and listen to music while being milked, and that might make me feel better, but the nutritional quality of the milk is the same.
And in some cases, the flavor is dramatically different for better or worse. For example, I cannot stand organic bananas, and I eat bananas almost every day. Something about the organic ones just taste so off to me. Can’t really pinpoint why - it’s been a while. But it’s stuck with me ever since I tried one.
Yeah.
Organic produce is often inferior, which kinda stands to reason because all the tOxIc ChEmIcALs are added to improve the product.
I mean, it’s obvious that adding fertilizer (phosphate) is going to produce bigger plumper tastier fruit and vegetables?
I buy organic cauliflower not because I prefer organic but because it’s all my local green grocer sells. It always has these little green caterpillars. I don’t let that bother me but I have noticed that it doesn’t seem to keep quite as long. Whether that’s because the caterpillars munching bits of it makes it deteriorate quicker, or it takes longer to get from the farm to me, or it’s a different variety, I really don’t know. It’s def not objectively as good as the non-organic version.
As an aside, Bananas (like most fruit and veg) has been heavily domesticated by humans and the original from the pleistocene was pretty awful from the sounds of it with much less edible flesh and much bigger and harder seeds.
Usually organic stuff is 2-4x more expensive around here, so my eyes tend to slip right over them.
Because being anti-GMO is hateful bigotry. Things like golden rice have already saved and enhanced millions of lives, it’s just that the benefit goes to poor people with dark skin.
Mitchell and Webb situation - Chicken farmer
“You see that? It’s made of chicken. It’s actually made of chicken. You kill it; you got free chicken, you can sell it to people. Or… don’t kill it, and fucking eggs come out of their arses! Fucking hell!”
They just got the one hole for everything so the eggs coming out of their ass is as accurate as saying they kinda pee them out.
Yeah I don’t think the joke would be improved by having Mitchell’s character be accurate about the chickens anatomy. In fact, I think it might ruin it a bit if he wasn’t as excitedly silly and incredulous.
But yes I take your point about what terms we use to refer to cloakas.
Thanks, trump!
Cheapest eggs for my grocery store are $5.65.