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“Now”? 👀
Tbh this was one of my first thoughts while reading this
I knew he could do it when he put his mind to it!
@sexy_peach ah, Soros. That strawman of every extremist.
Yeah, that’s what I thought, too. Soros indeed seems to be part of Nazi and " tankie" conspiracy theories. It’s another thing the two extremists groups share.
@0x815 Yea. One interesting thing to mention here is that his Hungarian origin makes him an easy target for our traditionalists as well. As having this origin clearly means he’s in to “steal” Transylvania and give it to Hungary (sic).
Elon Musk’s net worth is 176.9 billion USD, while George Soros’s 6.7 billion USD. So much of Soros being Magneto. Musk has gotten even more deranged during the last few years, and now he endorses anti-semitic nonsense. Why is anyone on Twitter at this point?
The man fell down the same rabbit hole of bullshit that a lot of our other fellow humans have. Thing is his platform and wealth make his more obvious and concerning.
If he didn’t have his wealth he would also be selling male supplements and butthole tanning beds.
“If the consequence of that is losing money, so be it.”
The only moral metric this person ever had.
He’s like Kanye was not long ago.
Just stumbled upon this Mastodon account citing the article @alyaza posted.
I would like to thank Elon Musk for posting a hateful antisemitic tweet and then defending it like a bratty five year-old, thereby reminding me that my quitting Twitter a few weeks ago was an absolute moral necessity. If I hadn’t done it then I’d have to do it now.
It’s good to see there are people with ethics and a spine.
How does calling a billionaire a villain make you a nazi? Like seriously, help me understand it.
you don’t think calling a successful jewish guy a villain sounds like antisemitic-nazi nonsense?
ok
one might at least be inclined to give Elon the benefit of the doubt were it not for the fact that he has long palled around with nazis on twitter and, as noted above, is saying shit like the Allen, TX shooter wasn’t a white supremacist despite literally his entire internet presence being white supremacist and him having several neo-nazi tattoos
Yeah, he’s either a straight up Nazi, or he’s untroubled using specific nazi-zeitgeist talking points and focuses. Soros isn’t the only billionaire whose main flirtation with infamy is saying “I will spend my entire fortune if I can guarantee George W. Bush, accused war criminal, is removed from power”, yet he’s the only one who is the far right’s boogie monster? If two billionaires do it, and the only one getting any consistent, concerted flak is the jewish guy, you can feel pretty confident calling these chucklefucks out for their antisemitic nonsense.
So for Musk, I mean, nazi or nazi-adjacent; either way, it’s disgusting and we’re not going to pretend like we can’t see it
No I don’t. I can’t name a billionaire who doesn’t seem like a villain to me. Why would I make an exception for jewish billionaires? Sounds kind of racist.
i mean this is just disingenuous–Musk is himself literally the richest man alive (or second, idk which), so obviously he doesn’t think being a billionaire is bad and he’s not criticizing Soros for being one. he’s criticizing him because he’s a Jewish billionaire, and Musk is a reactionary who wants the world to be a worse place. if Soros was funding white supremacist projects, Musk wouldn’t give a fuck
No you’re the one being disingenuous. I asked a question, “How does calling a billionaire a villain make you a nazi?” It’s pretty straightforward. If calling George Soros a villain doesn’t make you a nazi, but there’s more context in the case of Elon Musk, that would have been a more insightful response to my question that could have been the start of a different discussion.
But that’s not what @dax@beehaw.org said. Dax said “you don’t think calling a successful jewish guy a villain sounds like antisemitic-nazi nonsense?” This is an implicit claim that any person, not just Musk, who has an unfavorable view of any successful jewish person is antisemitic. That’s the claim I’m responding to and it has nothing about Musk!
This is an implicit claim that any person, not just Musk, who has an unfavorable view of any successful jewish person is antisemitic. That’s the claim I’m responding to and it has nothing about Musk!
this is a comically literal (and still disingenuous) interpretation of a statement that very obviously applied to the specific context of reactionaries like Elon calling George Soros a villain, because that is literally the entire context of the statement. calling Soros a villain here is unambiguously antisemitic because people like Elon–as reactionaries–object to Soros’s outspokenness and Jewish heritage, not his property of being a billionaire. again: none of these losers would care if he was someone like Peter Thiel, who is not a Jew; honestly, given that Thiel is gay they might even overlook Soros’s heritage for a time if he used his money to promote socially regressive and reactionary projects like Thiel does.
So it’s disingenuous to interpret a statement literally when they are clearly not speaking figuratively? Gotcha
Edit: If it’s my fault for misinterpreting the statement incorrectly, would @dax@dax@beehaw.org chime in and affirm the negative of my misinterpretation? Just say that you think calling George Soros a villain does not in fact sound antisemitic without additional context, thanks. If they can do that, it would put the argument to rest. Otherwise, alayza, you would definitively be the disingenuous one.
I think calling him out specifically, as an individual vs. as a group, is overwhelmingly likely to be coming from a Nazi. Of all the billionaires out there, he seems pretty milquetoast overall, so focusing on him looks so suspicious it’s like an entire firework display of red lights.
Is it possible you just grabbed at Soros off the top of your head and not, say, Rupert Murdoch or Jeff Bezos, but as Soros is neither the wealthiest nor most outspoken, I can only presume your singling out is anti-semitic. If it just so happened you were so unlucky as to think of him first, then I would apologize - but I also think we both know how unlikely that is so as to be pretty laughable.
If the context is “are all billionaires villainous”, then sure. That isn’t the context, though. The context is “is this specific billionaire uniquely villainous” - remember, the speaker is an order of magnitude wealthier - that makes it way more likely to be a Nazi attack than a surprise anti-oligarch assessment.
So either you get that now and your question was answered, or you’re arguing in bad faith acting like we don’t see through you and this exhaustingly common nazi enabling rhetorical device.
So either you get that now and your question was answered, or you’re arguing in bad faith
My question didn’t even mention Musk. I asked how in general the action of calling a billionaire a villain makes someone a Nazi. Believe it or not, Musk is irrelevant, because he is not the only person who rightfully calls out Soros and gets accused for antisemitism. There are a lot of random nobodies who don’t have billions of dollars who get called antisemitic just because they hate when already rich and powerful people use their wealth and power to further influence politics at home and abroad. See https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/George_Soros
Case in point: I am not anywhere close to the wealth of George Soros, yet you call me a Nazi enabler for (justly) calling him a villain. Who is really in bad faith here?
my brother in Christ the article was about musk calling soros a villain
Yeah but our point of contention had nothing to do with Elon Musk
yours didn’t, mine very much so did. I don’t really care about how you were trying to derail from the original topic; you asked the question within the context of the original topic, I answered it, now you’re trying to act like the context was never there. I really just don’t care about what you have to say anymore, tbh
